Yay Common Core!

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    This is what happens when the Feds take over education.
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  3. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Thanks for sharing your homework with us.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Holy shit that woman is stupid. Five groups of three is clearly different conceptually than three groups of five. You skip things like logical order of operations for a fast answer and when things get complicated you get the wrong answer because you skipped things.

    If I was your boss and told your to separate a group of fifteen items into five groups of three and you separated them into three groups of five I would have to fire you for not following instructions.

    It really does not seem like a hard concept for a person with normal synapse size and more then a few fucked up ganglion roaming around in their head, but trump supporters be the stupid.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    No this is what happens when stupid parents try to be smart asses. Every time I hear one of these common core bitches I end up thinking the parent is a moron and the kids are probably better off listening to the teacher, and this is no exception. If you are incapable of understanding the point of what is being taught you are a fucking moron who is making their kid more stupid and you need to shut up and go back to screwing things up at your adult job because their idiot is obviously missing.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    He should have followed the directions. :shrug:
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    But what do you really think? Stop holding back. We're all friends here.
  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Or the state shouldn’t get involved and should stop dumbing down the educational system.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You can join your buddies who think you are a winner in time out, bye.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    In what educational system could a student misread/ignore the instructions, put down a wrong answer, and get it marked right?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Does that include state governments that mandate teaching evolution as a "theory"? Should all kids be home-schooled? What do you suggest?
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    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    Evolution is a theory.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    That would certainly explain you.
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    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    No need to get snippy. I won't be mean to you today. :)
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  16. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It’s not the wrong answer.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I think you hit on the disconnect between the way math was taught to us (get the right answer: any understanding of the process is optional) and what the goal of common core math seems to be (getting a more rounded sense mathematics).

    Honestly, I think having a class for the parents to understand how CC works would help to get more people on board, cuz even someone like myself, who was decent at math through Geometry gets a bit puzzled looking at my nephew's homework assignments sometimes.
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    First of all, you're not gonna be anyone's boss. You can't even manage yourself. And if you were employable, 5×3 would be over your pay grade. Idiot.
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    Common Core got whacked last year at my kid's school. Even the teachers hated it.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Seems they were asking not just for the correct result, but to arrive at that result by a specific method. The student either didn’t understand this requirement or chose to ignore it. Either way, getting one question wrong on a third grade math test is hardly the end of the world.
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  21. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    1.Evolution should be taught in schools.
    2.Not all kids should be home schooled.

    Bonus answer. I practically minored in Anthropology and study it quite often. I believe in evolution.
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  22. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    That's what the common core teaches, with the 5 being the first number, the correct method or order is that there are 5 groups of three each. The problem with this is that later on they are taught 3+5x3 = 18, but will think the correct answer is 24 because they are thinking that 3+5 is first then multiply by 3. And not only that, but common will teach that 5 groups of 3 is the same as 3 groups of 5. And that it has to be done in the order that is presented. I went through the whole common core teaching curriculum, it's pretty fucking stupid.
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  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It’s not the wrong answer, it’s the wrong method and it’s fucking retarded.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I do as well. Some groups seem further along that chart though.
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  26. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Do you know what 3 x 5 equals? How did you come to that conclusion, count your fingers, count apples, does it really matter?
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    Made me think of something someone posted on a different board, here's their posts, along with some of the answers they received.

    And the responses.

    Responses to the post about the calculators.

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  28. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I agree. But math seems to be one of those subjects where "If it ain't broke, you gotta fiddle with it." That song was released in 1965. Just goes to show ya how TPTB can take a simple thing and fuck it up.

    In the real world, how you arrive at the correct answer shouldn't matter. But because the test specified a particular method, this kid was probably going on intuition instead of precisely following the instructions. Enough stories like this may be the wedge that drives Common Core into oblivion. But God knows what TPTB will come up with next.

    I'm not personally invested in this (my "kids" are over 40), but I'll have to check to see what kind of math my grandkids are dealing with.
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    Except... No? No Federal involvement.
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  30. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    This is again part of the problem that we've seen resulting from Republican efforts to de-fund education: an emphasis on getting the right answer in order to ace standardized tests, without an emphasis on thinking about why that answer is correct. If such critical thinking is not developed early enough, it can lead to issues understanding more complex math, etc. later in school.

    For what it's worth, I was always taught to show my work on math exams, and we lost points for not showing our work. It helped us understand complicated mathematical concepts which built on the previous concepts. This is much better than teaching to a standardized test where you get to pick from four possible answers.
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