OK so I saw it all yesterday in its entirety because it was on Spike just as I flipped to the channel. At the end when Janeway transfers her crew off to the other ships to attack the timeship she sends 3 to one species' ship and 3 to the other species' ship to give them temporal shielding. So when the battle begins the first thing the timeship does it take out the two similar ships of one of the two species - leaving them with zero ships. At this moment, three members of VOY's senior staff disappear from existance. Why then doesn't VOY leave the area too then?
Good, tightly plotted time travel stories are awesome. Poorly plotted, amorphous time travel stories are a bloody abortion.
Exactly. They tried to fit a full season's worth of Voyagerplot™ into a two part episode, had 80 minutes left to fill, and brought in the crack-addled shit-flinging monkeys to finish the script. Standard of practice for Voyager. I never understood why some people liked this episode. Complete and utter crap, of the really smelly kind.
I liked the way deck five blew out, and instead of spherical explosion, ONLY the flat deck five blew out a strip of deck five outer hull. So, what, the floors are all stronger than the pressure hull!?
Voyager was still protected by its temporal shielding, as are their alien friends. Yes, and they COMPLETELY ignored her warnings. Kes even found the temporal variance of the SAME torpedo that Seven found. If they had remembered that, Tuvok needn't have gone blind, but the writers were too fucking stupid. Another explanation, with all the time shifting going on around Voyager (at one moment they're on the border of Krenim space. At the next moment they're in the heart of Krenim space) that the events Kes experienced never happened. Hell, the time shifts could have erased Kes from the timeline completely. Edit: are you sure you watched both parts? Or were you just not paying attention?
Do you remember Voyager installing their temporal shielding to protect from Krenim weapons, then discovering that it also protected them from the time distortions? They gave that technology to the other aliens before they attacked Red Foreman's ship, and Voyager still had it going. So the death's of anyone wouldn't have affected Voyager. But then this happened:
Janeway told everyone to turn their temporal shields off so that the destruction of the Krenim ship would erase the whole year of hell. I have the episode on DVD.
Don't you know? It's standard Federation design. What else can explain out-of-phase Geordi, Ro and that Romulan running through Enterprise D walls and, in the Romulan's case, ultimately the pressure hull, but never falling "down" through the decks?
As I watched it for the first time recently, I kept on wondering what YOH would be like if more talented writers (than those on Voyager's staff) had wrote it. There was no "ohmph" to this episode, despite the good premise around it.
Yeah, that was awfully stupid. Kinda like blowing up a dam at its base, and the rest of it staying in place, gravity be damned (pardon the pun)
Yeah...it was in the episode where Kes was moving backwards through time, and we find out that Ocampa females bear their young from their butts
I think we found that out in season 1 when Kes went through Ocampan puberty early due to the anomaly of the week. And it's a sac on their back, not their butt.
It's one of the better Voyager episodes, so people try to find flaws where there are none, blinded by their hate of the series.
Season 3, Episode 21 - in other words, just before Scorpion. I think this might actually have been planned, remarkably. The scene had Kes discovering the undetonated temporal torpedo, while in YoH, Seven discovers it. The power relays on Deck Five Starboard blew. Assuming they were built into the ceilings, I think that having only that area of the ship wouldn't be too hard to believe.
