the whole fucking city is "bummed" about it, the beach will be gone soon and if the Navy decdes to pull out Pensacola will be destroyed, but on the upside, the girl who's number I got gets off work in an hour and wants to "hang out" and i'm headed to Houston wednesday for a job interview
I wouldn't worry about the Navy pulling out of 'The Cradle of Naval Aviation' and the home of the Blue Angels.
I'm all for not trying the guy in the court of public opinion, but if there was ever an open and shut case of murder this would have to just about be the textbook definition. That little shitstain is going DOWN.
So the lesson is that being rich and having a powerful family will let you get away with one murder. Not two. I will pick the one I get with great caution. Probably Volpone.
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I wonder if being interrogated by Peru cops rather than the keystone cops in Aruba aided in that confession? Was there ever one of those "Locked Up Abroad" shows done in Peru? What's it like there?
We better hope so because the max sentence is 35 years and he'll probably get significantly less than that.
The plot thickens... Colombia is now looking into the disappearance of 2 girls around the same time Joran was there for a poker tournament...
Goddammit! It is people like this that ruin it for the rest of us. Now it is just that much harder to get some bar whore drunk and get her back to your place.
Apparently the latest is that his mom has jetted down there with a lawyer and Joran is claiming the Peruvian cops brutally interrogated him for 4 straight days to bleed a confession out of him. I can see how this is going to play out, and if it were in America I'd be concerned. Maybe not so much in Peru. I still think they've got him almost literally red-handed.
Preu has notoriously dangerous prisons. The inmates run it (not uncommon in South America countries) so if they don't like Euroweenie Whitey he will not survive. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/0...ded-unhygienic-at-15000-feet-above-sea-level/ His defense lawyer said that the prison he will most likely go to makes the one in Midnight Express look like the Ritz-Carlton.
Alabama and the United States want him after that. The Federal Government has asked for extradition after this matter is resolved.
Its like the guy was crying out to be charged, convicted, and punished for his original murder, but just didn't have the balls to confess.
Lawyer I am not - so basically after he gets tried and convicted of the murder in Peru, if the extradition request is approved does he go to the USA after the conviction and just get more time added on with the extortion case, or is it after he serves his sentence in Peru? I'd much prefer he spend his time in a Peruvian prison.
I believe the way it typically works is that, if he's convicted, he'll do his time in Peru. While he's serving his sentence, a Peruvian court will sit on extradition hearings. If extradition is granted, at the end of his Peruvian sentence, instead of being released, he'll be held until he's turned over to the U.S. Marshal's Service. Now, with that said, a lot can change in 35 years. Governments, treaties, etc. His warrant in the U.S. will hang out there forever and ever, until it's served, but even if extradition is granted now, the Justice Department may not want him in 35 years. This is more of a hedge against him being acquitted in Peru. If they can't do the job, we can.
And to add insult to injury. Holloway suspect targeted in sting, not arrested AP – **CORRECTS CAPITALIZATION IN NAME: V IS CAPITALIZED **FILE -- In a June 4, 2010 file photo Dutch citizen … Slideshow:Joran van der Sloot detained in Peru murder By PETE YOST and SAMANTHA GROSS, Associated Press Writers Pete Yost And Samantha Gross, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 35 mins ago WASHINGTON – The FBI thought it was closing in on Joran Van der Sloot in the notorious Natalee Holloway missing-teenager case, and he was videotaped and paid $25,000 in a sting operation. But when the agency delayed his arrest to help build a criminal case, he took the money and headed for Peru, where authorities say he now has confessed to killing a different young woman. The investigation of van der Sloot in the Alabama teenager's case simply was not far enough along to have him arrested, the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham said Wednesday. Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy asked FBI Director Robert Mueller for an explanation of "exactly what happened in this case and the basis for all actions taken by the FBI." Holloway disappeared on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Van der Sloot is being held in Peru in connection with the killing, exactly five years later, of 21-year-old business student Stephany Flores, the daughter of a Peruvian circus promoter and former race car driver. Flores was found beaten to death, her neck broken, in the 22-year-old Dutchman's hotel room. Police said the two met playing poker at a casino. Federal law enforcement officials and a private investigator said the work on Holloway's disappearance was revived in April when van der Sloot reached out to a lawyer for Holloway's mother and requested $250,000 in exchange for disclosing the location of the young woman's body on the island of Aruba. He got $25,000, and the private investigator says the suspect was taped saying he pushed her down, she hit her head and died. But the statement from the FBI and U.S. attorney's office said the law enforcement probe "was not sufficiently developed to bring charges prior to the time van der Sloot left Aruba." Aruba authorities have been frustrated in their efforts to prosecute van der Sloot because they have been unable to find her remains. According to the private investigator, Bo Dietl, messages started coming in to John Kelly, a lawyer for the Holloway family who had hired Dietl, around Easter of this year from van der Sloot. Van der Sloot, for years the prime suspect in Holloway's disappearance, wanted to give details of where Holloway was buried and how she died. The family said they wanted closure and Kelly contacted the FBI, which sent 10 to 12 agents to Aruba to meet Kelly, Dietl said Wednesday in an interview with The Associated Press. They set up a sting operation and told van der Sloot he would receive $25,000 immediately and $225,000 more once the body was found. Kelly and van der Sloot met in a hotel room in Aruba and were secretly videotaped by the FBI. Van der Sloot said on tape that after Holloway died, he contacted his father who helped him bury the body, the investigator said. Van der Sloot's father died in January. "He wanted to come clean, but he also wanted money," said Dietl. "So now, not knowing if this was true or not, if there was a chance of recovering the body, we wanted to do that." Under surveillance by the FBI, he and van der Sloot went to where the body supposedly was buried. No body has been found. Van der Sloot has told investigators in Aruba that he left the 18-year-old Holloway on a beach, drunk. For years, he has denied involvement in her disappearance. Van der Sloot was the last person seen with Holloway before she vanished during a high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. He was arrested but has been released twice because of a lack of evidence. Flores' family was asked Wednesday for comment on the latest developments. Enrique Flores, one of the slain Peruvian woman's brothers, said, "My sister is dead, so I can't accomplish anything by thinking about what might have been." "Neither I nor the family are thinking about all the things that could have happened but did not. What we want now is for police to release their report so the prosecutor can decide whether to bring a case and on what charges." Peru's chief police spokesman, Col. Abel Gamarra, told the AP on Monday that van der Sloot had confessed to killing Flores. However, a Dutch newspaper has quoted a family lawyer as saying the confession may have been coerced. Van der Sloot, who was a fixture on true crime shows and in tabloids after Holloway's disappearance, crossed into Chile on Monday, roughly a day after leaving the Lima hotel. The day of his arrest in Chile, he was charged in the United States with trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family. The federal criminal complaint in that case, filed in Birmingham, alleged an arrangement to pay the money for disclosing the location of Holloway's body. According to a sworn statement, van der Sloot got a partial payment of $15,000 wired to a Netherlands bank soon after, but the complaint did not say where the money came from. The U.S. government's involvement in the payment to van der Sloot was first reported by the New York Post. ___ Samantha Gross reported from New York City. Jay Reeves and Kendal Weaver in Alabama, Mike Melia in San Juan, Puerto Rico, and Carla Salazar in Lima, Peru, contributed to this report.
And to add insult to injury. Holloway suspect targeted in sting, not arrested AP – **CORRECTS CAPITALIZATION IN NAME: V IS CAPITALIZED **FILE -- In a June 4, 2010 file photo Dutch citizen … Slideshow:Joran van der Sloot detained in Peru murder By PETE YOST and SAMANTHA GROSS, Associated Press Writers Pete Yost And Samantha Gross, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 35 mins ago WASHINGTON – The FBI thought it was closing in on Joran Van der Sloot in the notorious Natalee Holloway missing-teenager case, and he was videotaped and paid $25,000 in a sting operation. But when the agency delayed his arrest to help build a criminal case, he took the money and headed for Peru, where authorities say he now has confessed to killing a different young woman. The investigation of van der Sloot in the Alabama teenager's case simply was not far enough along to have him arrested, the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in Birmingham said Wednesday. Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy asked FBI Director Robert Mueller for an explanation of "exactly what happened in this case and the basis for all actions taken by the FBI." Holloway disappeared on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Van der Sloot is being held in Peru in connection with the killing, exactly five years later, of 21-year-old business student Stephany Flores, the daughter of a Peruvian circus promoter and former race car driver. Flores was found beaten to death, her neck broken, in the 22-year-old Dutchman's hotel room. Police said the two met playing poker at a casino. Federal law enforcement officials and a private investigator said the work on Holloway's disappearance was revived in April when van der Sloot reached out to a lawyer for Holloway's mother and requested $250,000 in exchange for disclosing the location of the young woman's body on the island of Aruba. He got $25,000, and the private investigator says the suspect was taped saying he pushed her down, she hit her head and died. But the statement from the FBI and U.S. attorney's office said the law enforcement probe "was not sufficiently developed to bring charges prior to the time van der Sloot left Aruba." Aruba authorities have been frustrated in their efforts to prosecute van der Sloot because they have been unable to find her remains. According to the private investigator, Bo Dietl, messages started coming in to John Kelly, a lawyer for the Holloway family who had hired Dietl, around Easter of this year from van der Sloot. Van der Sloot, for years the prime suspect in Holloway's disappearance, wanted to give details of where Holloway was buried and how she died. The family said they wanted closure and Kelly contacted the FBI, which sent 10 to 12 agents to Aruba to meet Kelly, Dietl said Wednesday in an interview with The Associated Press. They set up a sting operation and told van der Sloot he would receive $25,000 immediately and $225,000 more once the body was found. Kelly and van der Sloot met in a hotel room in Aruba and were secretly videotaped by the FBI. Van der Sloot said on tape that after Holloway died, he contacted his father who helped him bury the body, the investigator said. Van der Sloot's father died in January. "He wanted to come clean, but he also wanted money," said Dietl. "So now, not knowing if this was true or not, if there was a chance of recovering the body, we wanted to do that." Under surveillance by the FBI, he and van der Sloot went to where the body supposedly was buried. No body has been found. Van der Sloot has told investigators in Aruba that he left the 18-year-old Holloway on a beach, drunk. For years, he has denied involvement in her disappearance. Van der Sloot was the last person seen with Holloway before she vanished during a high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. He was arrested but has been released twice because of a lack of evidence. Flores' family was asked Wednesday for comment on the latest developments. Enrique Flores, one of the slain Peruvian woman's brothers, said, "My sister is dead, so I can't accomplish anything by thinking about what might have been." "Neither I nor the family are thinking about all the things that could have happened but did not. What we want now is for police to release their report so the prosecutor can decide whether to bring a case and on what charges." Peru's chief police spokesman, Col. Abel Gamarra, told the AP on Monday that van der Sloot had confessed to killing Flores. However, a Dutch newspaper has quoted a family lawyer as saying the confession may have been coerced. Van der Sloot, who was a fixture on true crime shows and in tabloids after Holloway's disappearance, crossed into Chile on Monday, roughly a day after leaving the Lima hotel. The day of his arrest in Chile, he was charged in the United States with trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family. The federal criminal complaint in that case, filed in Birmingham, alleged an arrangement to pay the money for disclosing the location of Holloway's body. According to a sworn statement, van der Sloot got a partial payment of $15,000 wired to a Netherlands bank soon after, but the complaint did not say where the money came from. The U.S. government's involvement in the payment to van der Sloot was first reported by the New York Post. ___ Samantha Gross reported from New York City. Jay Reeves and Kendal Weaver in Alabama, Mike Melia in San Juan, Puerto Rico, and Carla Salazar in Lima, Peru, contributed to this report.
Looks like the FBI set him up now or something. I'm thinking that the Peruvians made him confess and this is all a cover up. Both of these crimes happened outside of the US and the "alleged" perpetrator was from Holland. I am not seeing how the FBI was involved at all. They will hang they guy or whatever and the real truth will come out in 6-10 years or so.
Yeah... I feel the same way. EP, any time an American citizen is murdered outside of the United States, it's territories, or minor outlying islands, the FBI opens a case file and reserves jurisdiction. I would be disappointed if they weren't going after the guy. It's the same thing with that couple from Alabama last year. The guy took his new bride to Oz and killed her. After the Aussies are done with him, the FBI wants to try him in Federal court. After the Feds are done, the Attorney General of the State of Alabama wants to try him in State court.
I don't trust any coincidence where the government it is concerned. A south American country makes an arrest and "guess what" the FBI just happened to be looking at the same thing? Oh, and when someone is offering someone else money, that is not extortion. One does not "reach out" through someone else's lawyer for money in extortion. If the guy is truly guilty then he will pay for killing that woman. We got enough unsolved murders right here in the USA that the FBI needs to be working on. This whole thing wreaks of money and politics and all that is wrong with the government.
Yes but Elwood, in the 5 years since she was killed, there have been lots of US citizens killed outside the US. This guy here was not a US citizen and the crime did not happen in the US and there was no proof he committed any crime. They guy from AL was a US citizen and there was motive.
What don't you understand? This gets media attention because Holloway was an attractive white blonde girl whose family had money. Just because the media doesn't care about the others doesn't mean the FBI doesn't care. You just don't hear about it. There's a reason almost every Embassy and Consulate has an FBI liaison attached to it.