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No, I'm still voting for Obama. What I want is a fair fight. I hate one sided pushes. Everyone deserves fair representation in government. Stacking the deck is a sure way to keep that from happening.

He may have. I'm going by what I've seen of him, which isn't much. Like I was saying to Async, if he's going to do it he needs to get on the ball. Everything's in full swing, the early arrivals are being pounced, though some are faring better than others, so here's a chance to step in above the fray and give a clear message. Here's his chance, but if he waits too long, he may be too late to garner enough attention.

No. If she runs, she will not make it. She still has a measure of goodwill, but she's not that charging bull she was before. She seems more content to do her book deals and speaking engagements. She might pull a Newt, in that she'll flirt with the idea and jump in briefly to push visibility, but I don't see her as going the whole way.

Well, I'm not going even going to attempt to reason with any of that so we'll move on.

Yeah, he's practically persona non grata, but he's still considered a dark horse by some. Again, I don't think he'll make it.

Same reason as Huntsman. Paul isn't willing to demonize the hell out of people who disagree with him. The difference between him and Huntsman is that Paul has some Tea Party support. I don't think Huntsman does.

Which is why he's a dark horse.

He's reasonable, yes. I guess this makes him a loser horse. Sure, whatever.

No implication there. I wasn't even thinking that when I typed it.

THIS is what I was thinking when I typed it. Ron Paul has a non-interventionist policy and it scares most people away from him.

We'll have to see.

If John Heinz-Kerry had promised me free ketchup for the rest of my life, he could've been the 44th POTUS.

Hell, if he'd have said I couldn't have Heinz ketchup if I didn't vote for him, he'd have gotten my vote. What's Dubya got? I don't give two shits about the Texas Rangers.

Margaret Sanger was a well known eugenics proponent and was backed by others. Eugenics was big in "progressive" circles before WWII and Nazi Germany ruined those terms for them.

And since I mentioned the Nazis...

Some quick research done, and it looks like yes, Sanger was an avid proponent of eugenics, particularly negative eugenics (the kill them one, not the have more babies one). A bit more research showed that she did consider black population in the South to be a problem, and had several proposals in that regard that makes her look less than flattering, i.e., "crazy as a shithouse rat", so I was wrong on that one. Man, the first half of the 20th century was just full of fuck up all across the board.

A liberal is a Commie without balls enough to be known for being a Commie. Now, back in the 1940s or 1950s, we would have been fooled. Not anymore.

Yeah, but the Texas Rangers will drink muddy water from a hoof-print, and be glad to have it.

Why?! Are you insane?! Sure, they're all self-serving greedy assbags, but that self-serving, greedy assbag has fucked this country possibly beyond repair. Why would you willingly vote to have that unleashed upon us all again, especially for a second term where he can go as utterly batshit as he likes without attempting to please any American voters to gain reelection?!

Obama voters are like Prius buyers. They like what the choice says about them.

I disagree with your opinion.

No, sir. I don't vote for someone simply because they become popular, I vote for whom I believe is the best person for the job, from the available list of candidates. Whether that person is "best" or not is a matter of preferred politic and opinion.

Freakonomics did a cool podcast on this:
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/07/07/hey-baby-is-that-a-prius-you’re-driving/

Gotta disagree here pal, it's painfully obvious that Pres. Obama () is in woefully over his head (and has been from the jump). Anyone in the current line-up of GOP candidates seeking the nomination (or the DNC, if they had the guts to do it) is more qualified for the job of POTUS than Mr. Obama. He may have taken office with an economy at nearly rock bottom, but now, 2 & 3/4 years in, there's rock bottom, 250 feet of crap, and then you get to where his policies have driven the economy. Voting for more of that isn't open minded pragmatism, it's willfull ignorance.

I disagree.

Most certainly not.

If I didn't think he could do the job, I wouldn't vote for him. It's quite the opposite of ignorance, in fact, as I spend a significant amount of time keeping up on such politics. You can (and likely will) disagree. That, alone, does not change the results of my studies or observations.

That's not a disqualifier for Republican Nominees, in fact it seems that the opposite is true:

2008: McCain (lost nomination in 2000)
2004 & 2000: Bush
1996: Dole (Lost nomination in 1976)
1988 & 1992: Bush (Lost nomination in 1980)
1984 & 1980: Reagan (Lost nomination in 1976)

Since 1980, Bush II is the only nominee who hadn't already lost the nomination in a previous election.

If I had money to put on the election, I'd probably put it on Romney. The 'establishment' likes him, and that counts for a lot.

John.

John, John, John...

A baby monkey, riding backwards on a pig, could do a better job running this country than The Beast has. I don't quite know what it says about you, that you claim to think he is the best person for the job. You're either: retarded, insane, or evil. Which is it?

Can we quit it with the constant "[candidate] can't win" assertions?
People have said that at one time or another of every elected official. It's not an argument. It's just a waste of typing.

The establishment doesn't matter.

Second McCain, Bush, and Reagan all came within a hairs breath of winning the nomination. Not sure about Dole.

Romney got solidly bounced out early in 2008. And he's on the path right now to get bounced again. This is why his campaign is refusing to participate in any straw polls. They are afraid of him losing those and taking hits to the campaign like he did in 2008.

A conservative is a Nazi who just couldn't manage to get hooked up with some Zyklon B.
All of 'em, everywhere, whom ever lived.
"No, surely he means those other conservatives, and not me,..".
Yes, you too.

About time SNL got one right:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/sunday-morning-politicomedy-snl-does-gop

It says that I don't agree with your assessment, that's what it says. Anything else has been inferred by you, which is not unexpected.

Well, I don't think you're evil, so it is probably retarded or insane. I'm leaning towards retarded, but I don't have the data or expertise to make the diagnosis.

Obama had no real intention of running in 2008. He thought Hillary would get the nomination and was merely getting his name out there possibly for VP, or to run in 2012 or 2016.

That is painfully obvious by the fact that once elected, he had no plan for the country. None.

How much pain?

I see all of these "painfully obvious" statements that seem to have no support beyond personal opinion and personal conjecture at best. I'm wondering how much pain these observations have put you through.

It must not be an arthritic pain, because he can still type.

Ya mean Roosevelt, there, do ya? Eisenhower, maybe? Today, they'd be "fascists." I don't seem to recall them sitting down on the job when it came to kicking Nazi ass, though. On the other hand, ask any liberal today to condemn Communism and if you can get one to do it at all, you'll hear more apologist preamble first than you can stay awake for.

FTFY.

Have done, til I'm blue in the face, I'm not going to do it on demand, I'm not a jukebox, go fuck yourself.

I see you like fixing things that aren't broken. Maybe you should become a member of Congress. Or George Lucas.

Man. I really don't want to go here. You've clearly got your head so far in the sand that you won't listen to anything I say and we'll just have this conversation again in two days, but just off the top of my head and the stuff that is in the headlines right now:

On Obama's watch the Justice Department arranged for thousands of guns to be sold illegally to Mexican drug cartels--with the plan for tracking them being that one turned up at a crime they'd...I don't know. I really can't understand what they were allegedly trying to accomplish because it made no sense.

Obama's Energy Department gave over a half-BILLION dollars to a solar cell manufacturer that just happened to be a big campaign donor on the premise that they would be creating "green jobs". Within a couple years the company declared bankruptcy and its executives are taking the Fifth in regard to a Congressional investigation.

Obama set up a Website for people to tattle on anyone they thought was saying bad things about his Administration. This was so ludicrous that it was laughed out of existence in less than a week.

Obama promised that if we spent a jillion dollars on pork unemployment would not get above 8.1%. That jillion dollars got spent--after the recession was ending on its own--and we haven't seen unemployment below 9% in I can't remember how long.

Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama attacked the government of Libya--a nation that we were actually enjoying relatively good relations with, bombing its military and overthrowing its government.

Obama rammed through a healthcare plan on straight party lines that is almost certainly Unconstitutional, is unfunded, is almost certainly playing a role in our continued economic malaise, and is riddled with loopholes for Obama supporters and cronies.

Obama needed a teleprompter to talk to fucking schoolchildren. Obama personally lobbied to bring the Olympics to the US--an unprecedented thing for a US President to do--and failed.

I could go on and on, but you get the idea. I guarantee you that if we'd elected a baby monkey riding backwards on a pig, he wouldn't have done any of these things and our nation would be almost certainly in better shape than we are with this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Let's also remember that on Obama's watch:

The Justice Department dropped a case against the Black Panthers for intimidating voters

Obama promised to end Iraq, Afghanistan, and GITMO. Anyone care to guess which promise he kept?

Obama insulted our ally, the UK, not once but twice first by a ham fisted iPod gift of OBAMA SPEECHES to the Queen and then returning the bust of Winston Churchill.

Obama cut off oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. But he supports Brazil drilling in the oceans so much he gave them a couple billion dollars.