It all depends on where the body was. I'm already skeptical about Martin ambushing or attacking Zimmerman in proximity to his vehicle, especially since it's already been established that he'd already been chased by Zimmerman and managed to escape from him at least temporarily.
The picture is blurry you retard. And it was taken from above by a fucking satellite. Do you know how fucking hard it is to see a road sign from ABOVE???? Yet your want me to point them out. You're a retard.
Fair enough. That's good, because proximity the to the vehicle where the incident has not been established. Only that Zimmerman was returning to it.
So, you don't see a street sign either. Gotcha. As for difficulty seeing it from above, it would seem to be even more difficult to see a lamp post from above, yet, I can clearly point out one, possible four.
Lamp posts are taller and bigger and make bigger shadows you retard. You're not seeing the actual lamppost. You're see their fucking shadows!
No, they just have to be the first one to attempt making contact in an aggressive manner. "He was following me and I didn't like it, so I stared punching" is not self-defense. No amount of tortured reasoning is going to change that. No amount of deflection about Zimmerman's past is going to change that. No harping on the difference of size or age is going to change that. No belaboring Zimmerman's repulsive personality is going to change that.
And chasing someone wouldn't count because...? It's the obvious precursor to grabbing or hitting them.
Have I missed the conclusive, unambiguous proof that some actual chasing occurred immediately prior to the physical altercation? Chasing, not just following. You don't get to call it chasing when some asshole is following you around until you get your balls up and decide to teach him a lesson. It's not self-defense when some asshole is just making you nervous or pissing you off. Anyway, say there was a close foot race between the pudgy 28 year old and the 17 year old athlete. There is still a fine distinction to be made between chasing you because you ran and I don't want to lose sight of you, and chasing you to fuck you up. And before you get too hasty to make a blanket declaration that it's automatically aggressive behavior, remove these personalities from the equation. It's no longer some wannabe vigilante with a chip on his shoulder and a kid we now know probably wasn't doing anything wrong. Say I just interrupted you beating up your girlfriend and you run off to avoid the cops. Am I an imminent threat if I run after you to keep you in my sight? What if I own a store and I think you just shoplifted something? What if I walk outside and find my windshield broken, then turn and see some kid running down the block? You don't just get to declare a foot chase an "attack" because you don't like Zimmerman.
No. I'm seeing the actual lamppost. However, In the picture below, I happen to know there's a street sign inside the red circle. Inside the blue circle is a lamppost. So, since you can't show me the street sign in the other picture, retard, that's all you had to say. But, don't pretend that one is more obvious than the other. It's not that different. Obviously.
No. It's right there inside that blue circle. Now, can anyone point me to the link that states the address so I can google it myself?
What do you mean exactly by 'chasing'? As in running after him? Remember that Zimmerman had a car he was chasing Martin around in. Also, Zimmerman's 911 call had him huffing and puffing at one point, so he might have been running after Martin. Or the just as likely explanation is that he was huffing and puffing because he is fat and was just walking at a normal pace.
Not necessarily. Could be that during the struggle Martin felt it or Zimmerman's shirt moved in such a way that it's visible. Or Martin could have seen Zimmerman going for it during the fight. The thing is that none of us knows. Or Maybe Zimmerman was following someone that he felt was only suspicious and then decided to break things off and return to his truck. If Zimmerman's account of returning to his truck holds true, then why would Martin engage Zimmerman if he had managed to break contact? Again, is everything cut and dried?