You mean now? There's always been a lack of decency and morality in society, since day one. This is hardly the first senseless death in history. The only difference now is that you're more likely to hear about it. Don't worry though, one day you'll get those darn kids off your lawn.
I find myself reaching a crossroads with my view on the death penalty. I don't like the government having that power... But... If we have someone dead to rights with evidence that is unquestionably accurate. Well, fuck it, they should be taken outback and shot the minute they are found guilty. No need to waste time with jailing or appeals. In this case we may not actually have evidence at that particular level. I'm talking video of the crime, pics of them posing with the body, something totally undeniable. Don't take that to mean I don't think they're guilty or that I will shed a tear if Oklahoma puts them down like rabid dogs. Some crimes just make me really struggle with being anti death penalty.
This thread aside, I've noticed you've taken to mocking a group of your own creation. Who are these Endangered White Strawmen? Is that even a thing?
It's an Alinsky tactic. Rather than discuss racism against white folks honestly, Leftforge has taken to mocking the idea in the hopes that that's an adequate substitute for discussion. Why are they uncomfortable with an honest discussion of that issue? Might it screw with their white guilt? Probably.
Right, so what we need to do is take guns away from everyone! That way we ensure the bad guys can't get their hands on them. You know, like drugs.
I'm with Tex. These kids are sociopaths, I see no benefit to their continued existence, no rehabilitation, and I'm sorry I can't see how their age matters. What's also bad is how blacks don't realize how this reflects on them when they don't react with the most vociferous outrage possible. If there aren't outpouring of support for the victims family, marches in the street, condemnations of the murderers as they would were the races reversed, then a lot of reasonable people, people that don't want to think in terms of race, harbor a little seed of resentment. Instead we're already getting the standard gun control rhetoric. Three kids just killed someone out of BOREDOM, this ain't about guns! And I don't get post above thread about the kids pictures, both sets were just used by CBS news this morning.
Agreed. You can fix people like this. But it requires a bullet to the head. This is an important part that I think most of leftforge will gloss right over. The seeds of resentment in the "white" community are growing. This is why we see threads like this cropping up on Wordforge. Also read the comments of the news stories. You can't chalk up all the comments to trolls and racists. A lot are ordinary people who see this stuff and just keep harboring more seeds. People are getting tired of being called racist over every little thing. People are getting tired of the double standard where if a white kills a black it's an outrage and there are marches and all white people are just unjustly slandered for the actions of one idiot white while a black killing a white gets flat out ignored. Even the media does what it can to downplay and ignore black on white crime. Hell this case might not be known to us if it wasn't for the fact that the victim is Australian and the people in Australia are pissed. And then as you said there is the standard rhetoric. In this case gun control. Instead of looking at the actual cause because these kids had to have fucked up family lives to think that killing someone is a good way to relieve boredom we get the standard gun control nonsense. Oh and if you're against gun control you often get slammed with the racism card because you only want a gun to kill "brown" people caused you're a scared pussy according to the anti-gunners. There have been some horrific cases of black on white crime. Just flat out nasty ones. All but ignored by the Sharptons and the Jacksons of the world. But one guy, Zimmerman, shoots a black kid and according to the Sharptons and Jacksons it's like we are still in the early 1900's and lynching black people left and right. All the progress that has been made has been wiped out. Civil Rights? Never heard of it. People see that stuff. And more importantly they remember and with each incident it builds and builds. I fear the day a backlash occurs because I think we are being driven down the road to racial strife and violence by leftist drivers who consistently work to have us at each others throats. I may have to eat crow on my post about the pictures.
Biased attention is just a way of balancing out the present against the injustices of the past. A little hypocricy and dishonesty is a small price to pay for the perception of social equality.
Still doesn't make what he wrote wrong. Looks like I was right on the pictures. The first group that Castle posted used the wrong photo for Michael Jones. The second group is the correct one with Michael Jones being the white guy of the three.
If you're bi-racial and you commit a crime then you're a cracker. If you get killed then you're black.
Whilst that's entirely true, I can't help but feel that there's no excuses anymore. In my opinion, we're living in an age where opinions and a sense of entitlement is as common as arseholes, and many kids have an over inflated sense of worth and under inflated sense of empathy. Society has advanced in so many ways, I don't see why behaviour like this gets a free pass.
HA HA! Due to my social disorders I have no guilt, "white" or any other kind. Laying down that pile of bricks is a no brainer for me. Bear I mind I do have empathy toward people in theory, even if I don't actually feel it per se, because it's the right thing to do if for no other reason.
One thing I just remembered and I wanted to add in response to Evenflow's post is that the "white" community also sees the news reports about person after person who is black and is killed in places like Detroit and Chicago and the people see there is no outrage over it because the killer is black. It's a non-story to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and all the other race hustlers. I honestly believe that if Dr. King was still alive today he'd be marching in those cities because that's where real problems are and not one of the so called civil rights leaders of 2013 gives a damn. So the people around the country see the outrage and the marches and threats and allusions to whites bringing back slavery and lynching when a white kills a black person and then they see nothing in response to the massive amount of deaths of blacks at the hands of other blacks. It makes people realize that the Jackson and Sharptons of the world only care about someone like Trayvon Martin as a means to an end. Trayvon is only important because the person who killed him wasn't black. It enables them to continue their spreading of racial division among the people of this country.
I wouldn't disagree with that, entitlement does seem more prevalent these days. Regarding empathy, I dunno.....I think these days you have that bleeding heart theology permeating amongst children more so than ever before, giving them a sense of empathy. From the school systems and what they teach, to the shrinks, to the environmental awareness, this list goes on. Kids are more motivated these days to speak out, act out and identify with the things that they perceive to be wrong. It definitely has roots from the '70s but I think it's been taken up a notch. But yeah, then you have things like this happen and you can't help but think "what the fuck is wrong with kids these days". But the sad part is this has happened many times before throughout history, all over the world. Guh? Who's giving these psychopaths a free pass?
Then don't you think it is playing right into their hands to try to make every single crime a racial issue even when there's no evidence to suggest it was a factor? Where is the racial angle to this case? "I'm bored, let's go kill somebody" is not at all the same thing as "I hate white people, let's go kill one."
A meme that is easily debunked. http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/07/19/zimmerman-trial-triggers-right-wing-media-black/194977 and http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ing-and-the-myth-of-black-on-black-crime.html Why aren't you outraged by the epidemic of white on white crime?
