So if I went through a menu just going, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no..." at each item without even reading it, you'd call that "consideration"?
Damn! I like Lanz as an ordinary board member. He's releasing all kinds of Libertarian energy today! I haven't seen him so energized in such a long time!
Lanzman works for the government. He's just pissy because he's not getting paid. How's that gridlock working out for you now, buddy?
Did the Senate vote on the House's bills, yes or no? Did the House vote on the Senate's bills, yes or no?
"Yes or no" questions are the province of the desperate. The Senate did not consider the House's CR. They voted on it without discussing its merits and, I would go so far as to wager, without even looking at it. They voted on it; they did not consider it.
Answer the questions. Did the Senate vote on the House's bills, yes or no? Did the House vote on the Senate's bills, yes or no?
Your question is irrelevant to the point of whether or not anything was considered. So, no, I'm not going to play into your "gotcha."
Do you want pizza? No? Ok, how about a supreme? How about a Hawaiian? BBQ chicken pizza? What if we get it from Domino's? No? Ok, Pizza Hut? No again? Why aren't you thinking about all these alternatives?!?
That's an amusing bit of rhetoric, but it only reinforces my point -- simply saying "no," over and over does not involve any level of consideration.
http://www.caintv.com/obama-tells-boehner-im-not-neg In which it is reported that Obama, Reid, et al. would rather let the government default than negotiate. They get their exemption from Obamacare; the American people? Well, we can just take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, for all they care.
Not exempt. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/sep/24/top-16-myths-about-health-care-law/
If rules have been added that give lawmakers any leg up that any other American does not have, that may not be an exemption, per se, but it is still special treatment to which they are not entitled.
That seems to be at odds with all the reports of people who are being kicked off their current coverage and shifted to "ACA-compliant plans", not to mention all the small businesses who can't afford to comply and who are therefore laying off employees and slashing work hours. I realize those facts are inconvenient to the "Obamacare is a gift from God" narrative, but they stubbornly remain facts all the same.
Not true, My insurance company sent me a letter saying my rates are going DOWN January 1st, as are my co-pays, and prescription co-pays. BTW- the small business part DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT til 2015..
Castle is offering an opinion, nothing based on evidence. Just the same, isn't this an Albertarian tactic, to demand a yes or no response?
the rest of that sentence provides the "why" to that assertion. For evidence, see polls on....anything
The GOP doesn't have the votes to repeal Obamacare straight up. Pairing that issue with the budget was 100% their decision. That's why the shutdown is 100% their fault. Some people think the Democrats should compromise with them, but what kind of moral hazard does that entail? Any minority group of the minority party can exact concessions under threat of government shutdown? That is not how the republic is supposed to function. The GOP needs to pay the political price for its piss poor responsibility toward the basic idea of government.
Obamacare is flatly unconstitutional; shouldn't Obama and his party pay the price for forcing it on the American people?
Where was this attitude when the Democrats were the minority? Democrats always screamed about the majority abusing the minority and how the majority (Republicans) should be working with them. The Democrats when minority blocked judge after judge, blocked all sorts of bills, threatened government shutdowns (which the majority Republicans caved on) and did all sorts of shit. (I've no problem with Democrats doing this BTW but one can't complain about Republicans doing it if they are going to ignore the Democrats who've done it as well) Now the Democrats are the majority the minority status no longer matters? How dare those Republicans, who are in the minority position, think they should have any say at all in any matter!!!! Fuck them!!!! The majority is all that matters!! They should go sit in a fucking corner so we can get everything we want!!! No thanks. A strong minority is important regardless of which side is the minority at the moment.
Neither; the people get to decide that. Nothing -- nothing -- in the United States Constitution empowers the federal government to mandate any commercial purchase. Nothing. Nowhere. Period. And as the Tenth Amendment makes clear, no power which is not specifically enumerated to the Federal government in the Constitution may be assumed by the Federal government. That really is the bottom line, be all, end all of this debate: Unless the Constitution specifically says that the Feds can do something, they can't do it. Ever. And there's nothing in the Constitution, anywhere, that says that the Feds can require anybody to purchase... anything. Therefore! The mandates attached to Obamacare? They're unconstitutional. Unenforceable. And no American can be legitimately obligated to comply with those mandates.
Oh and technically at this moment no one is in "minority" status as Republicans run the House and the Democrats run the Senate. Throwing Obama in the mix gives the Democrats a slight edge. So again why can't the Republicans have a say and fight for what they want? Why wasn't it a problem for the Democrats who controlled the Senate to do the same thing the Republicans are doing now when the Republicans ran the House and had Bush as President?
They absolutely can. You say that Dems threatened to shutdown the government under Bush 43 and maybe they did. I know they filibustered a lot of things... I don't recall a shutdown threat, but I could've missed it. The fact remains that the government didn't shutdown with a Dem minority and the last 3 times it happened was with a Repub minority.
Through the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution: This is a clear and explicit instruction that anything the Constitution doesn't specifically state that the Federal government can do, the Federal government cannot do. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution which states that the Federal government can use any mechanism -- any mechanism, whatsoever, to compel United States citizens to purchase anything. Ever. Therefore, no Obamacare mandate, at any level, is Constitutional. Therefore, every Obamacare mandate, at every level, is null and void. The U.S, Constitution is the supreme law of the land. It trumps everything else. It preemptively nullified Obamacare's mandates. Those mandates are Constitutionally unenforceable.
