I Would've Made A Good President.

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    Except that you are lying because I never said any of that.

    If you insist on lying about something so clear and obvious that I've already flat out contradicted then you have no business commenting in this thread.
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    I am lying? Ok, how do you intend to eliminate half of the abortions in the country because clearly I don't understand what that vague jargon you posted means?
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    Well, shit, why hasn't anybody thought of that before?
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  4. Dayton Kitchens

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    From the wikipedia entry regarding the 1932 election


    Roosevelt himself did not have a clear idea of the New Deal at this point, so he promised no specific programs.
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    Like I said, Clinton had what amounted to a pilot program to reduce teenage births IIRC (as long as the abortion rate did not increase).

    States could do whatever they thought would work. That could include counseling, birth control access, financial incentives, whatever.

    Having the federal govt. say "do this, this, this, this, and this" is one of the problems in the first place because it presumes there is one way to do things across 50 states.
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    I would have made a better president.
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  7. Dayton Kitchens

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    The problem with that approach is then huge amounts of federal money just gets wasted. Kansas announces the way to reduce abortions is to send everyone to Jesus camp for a week at government expense while Mississippi announces it wants to use the money to imprison those dirty whores to protect the rape babies they are gestating.

    No, I prefer to go with what has actually proven to work, you know, real sex ed and access to birth control, and let the states experiment on their own dime.
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    Why are you simply making things up that never happened?
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    I am illustrate the sort of nonsense which is likely to happen when you give money out with no strings attached. It will get wasted. A much better approach is to identify approaches which actually have been proven to work and then mandate that the money actually be spent on those things. No more abstanence only nonsense, no more trying to block women getting birth control. If they want the money then they have to follow methods which actually are proven to work.

    While we are at it start tying some of the money we already give the states to force them to follow known good policoes. Like, if you don't expand medicare then we take away all of your federal highway funds, your federally subsidized crop insurance, your Federal education block grants, etc... Then let the dumb fucks find out what small government really means for their states.
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  11. Dayton Kitchens

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    The states are supposed to be "laboratories of democracy". Where the local electorates are free to try new ideas and concepts without having their actions dictated by the federal govt. every step of the way.

    What you are arguing is there is ALWAYS a best way to do things and that the federal government ALWAYS has all the answers.

    History has proven those are completely untrue.
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    Sure, they are free to do what they want with their own money but if money is going to lower teen pregnancies then it is perfectly reasonable for the feds to tell the states what they want the money to be used for. If the states don't like it then they don't have to take the money.
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    I would have made a great President. I mean, so much corruption at the top for all of my friends.
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    Which states not only have the lowest abortion rates, but have seen the largest decline over the last twenty years (meaning policy has a likely influence)?
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Son of a bitch!

    I got dragged into a Dayton :drama: thread.

    :bang:

    On the one hand, I really should feel bad for the guy. A total wallflower with books full of failures, forced to troll the internet for someone, anyone, to pay attention to him.

    On the other, people have been trying to help him for over a decade, and he just brushes them off, so at this point, isn't it really all on him? :shrug:
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    I, for one, would vote for President Kitchens.

    :yaoming:
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    He's not pretending to be smarter than to be Dayton. How 'bout you?
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    Oy! Reading skills! That he didn't advertise specific legislation for the New Deal doesn't mean he didn't advertise specific legislation.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29595
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    Regardless of whether you think Dayton would or would not have made a good president:
    at this point he's more qualified than our current president was when he took office! :hail:
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    Not to forget, blowjobs in the Oval Office. Yes, I also would have made a good President. :D
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  21. Dayton Kitchens

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    One economic proposal.

    1) Raise gas taxes 12.5 cents every year.

    2) While eliminating the taxes on over the road diesel fuel.

    Combined this serves the following purposes.

    1) While it increases the average costs of gasoline, it makes fixed costs of gasoline (taxes) a higher portion of the price, so though the average is higher, the percent that prices will vary in the future based on things like crude oil price will be greatly reduced.

    2) Funds the federal highway program.

    3) Most goods in the U.S. are transported by diesel, so lowering costs of diesel should have a ripple effect through the U.S. economy
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    Hmmm.... I like Dayton's fuel tax idea.
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    I do too, but it would need to be on the order of $3.00 to have an effect. $0.12 would not be noticed.
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  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    12.5 cents each year would be a one dollar increase over 8 years. I considered various amounts both for effect and for the obvious political doability.
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    Sorry, I missed that bit. Still I don't think $0.12 per year would have an effect. Retail fuel prices vary that much in a week.
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    Cut deficit by 50% and launch four manned space missions per year? :unsure:
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  27. Dayton Kitchens

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    500 million per manned space mission (perfectly reasonable figure) works out to 2 billion dollars annually..

    Out of what, a 15 billion dollar NASA budget already.
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    Fortunately, to become President, you need to persuade other people to vote for you. And fortunately, other people uniformly think Dayton is a laughing stock.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Newton
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    I can't believe this isn't a NotDayton thread!
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