Trump wants to stop all Muslims from coming into the US

Evidently. Fortunately, despite his constant spamming, I suspect he will be more and more marginalised here. I find it utterly delicious that Dinner the Dick feels he needs to rely on him to "win" debates.

For the same reasons you hammer Dayton day after day, year after year for his bigoted, small mindedness and self-centered views, regardless of whether it should or shouldn't

Gturner doesn't have the autism excuse to hide behind.

That said:

Fair enough.

Dayton is waaaaay different from gTardo. Half the time I don't think Dayton intends to be as fucked up as he is. I think he's witless and I figure there's always a glimmer of him with him. In contrast, I think Gtardo knows exactly what he's up to.

Beisdes, my "why bothjer" was actually meant to address responding to him in toto (which my following paragraph did admittedly give the impression of, rather that on the question you're responding to he's already had a detailed response to it more than once, and one that's fact rather than open to debate, and he just ignores it and carries on with his narrative. That's what I'm getting at. If you make a good point, he just responds with copious paragraphs of evasive ramble.

You merely mentioned two incidents in India, a country where religious violence by non-Muslims has a death toll of about 0.003 per 100,000 people per year. That's about 300 times less than the homicide rate in the UK, and about 10 times less than the rate of Muslim terrorist homicides in France over the last 10 years. And of course you picked the country where non-Muslim religious violence would be at its worst. It's hard to find any comparably low death rate in the US except for shark and bear attacks.

ETA: India's death rate from religious attacks carried out by non-Muslims is about half the US death rate from cow attacks, and about on par with deaths from spider bites.

On a related note, I'm becoming more convinced that Dayton isn't the only Wordforge poster with autism.

I mentioned a lot more than that, more than once....such as the Buddhist attacks on Muslims and the atrocities of the Lord's Resistance Army, the latter of which are responsible for over 100k deaths in the name of your very own religion, and both of which aren't an Indian issue. What's more, the point wasn't about numbers so much as it was about defeating your claim that there was no such think as violence from other religions (and you've proven you have no interest in numbers when they work against you). Yet another lie you were offering up until it was defeated.

You've been found out bub. You're the out and out liar you've always been labelled as. You're not worth the time and effort and I will not be giving your lies, repeated ones at that, any more attention. Kindly go fuck yourself.

The death toll of 0.003 per 100,000 includes Buddhist attacks on Muslims. In a country of 1.2 billion, every 10 years or so, there's a flare up and a couple hundred people get killed, and that's in areas that are extremely backwards and superstitious.

The Lord's Resistance Army's leader thinks he is a new prophet, just like Jesus or something. His followers think he's possessed by spirits. He makes David Koresh and Jim Jones look positively mainstream. One of the largest wars in the history of China was fought in the 1860's against another such nutter who learned just enough about Christianity to realize he was Jesus.

And where are all the international meetings and military coalitions to stop all this non-Muslim religious violence? Did Hollande and Putin attend the meetings? Is the enemy a bunch of Buddhist martial artists or Christian pike formations? How many air wings will it take to staunch the Shinto threat?

http://www.newsweek.com/paris-school-attack-isis-seine-saint-denis-404596

Yet another terrorist attack in France yesterday. Three weeks ago ISIS declared they wanted their agents to target teachers in France for teaching secularism and yesterday and masked north African man stabbed a teacher screaming he was doing it for ISIS.

But according to Gul and El Chup if we do anything to try to stop these barbarians, if we speak out against them, or if we don't keep letting them in, why then that would be bad and racist because... Reasons. Here is a radical thought: Maybe our government should try doing what is best for its citizens than trying to accommodate noncitizens aliens?

No-one who has actually read Chup and Gul's posts and has 1) a functioning brain, 2) basic comprehension of English and 3) the lack of your burning desire to wave your e-peen in Chup's face because of UST thinks they've said anything like that.

At this point, you are probably a bigger liar than gturner. You certainly are more transparent.

Royal and Ancient (Golf) tell Donald to do one!

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...open-tournament-amid-anger-over-a6771086.html

Not that it will bother him financially, but it will really hit his pride hard. For those blissfully unaware, Trump is a huge golf nut and owns numerous high profile golf courses across the world. A few years back he purchased Turnberry, one of the UK’s jewels and a regular host of the Open Championship. The ‘Open’ is the biggest, oldest and most grand golf tournament in the world. Trump thought it would only be a matter of time before he got to host the Open. Looks like the powers that be at the R&A have decided that he’s not getting it.

Obviously it doesn’t really matter to his presidential aspirations, but as I said, this is a major blow to the guys self esteem.

What an incredibly well thought out and planned attack.

Surely we should all be terrified at the sophiscated nature of this attack and the overall ability of ISIS.

Oh do go fuck yourself. It's amazing that you have the nerve to still run with this pathetic strawman after not only having those "reasons" explained at length, but that just on the very previous page your strawman bullshit was yet again called out as fiction.

You're a fucking joke of a man. You think that people can't read for themselves the bigotry you've been spewing.

I am sorry reality upsets you but it is still reality.

As for the attack not being well thought out, good, but the main threat is that ISIS calls upon Sunnis to take "individual jihad" which means exactly what we have seen in San Bernadino and yesterday in France. They are either lone wolf or small cell attacks which are the hardest to identify and stop. I'd prefer not to make the matter worse and that means not increasing the pool of potential jihadists in the country.

People like Chup continue with his ad hominem attacks because he cannot counter that logic. He knows it, I know it, everyone knows it.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/190...s-hits-canada-jihadist-just-ran-two-soldiers/

Fact: Since 2014 ISIS has declared it is the duty of all muslims to either support the Calaphate (by journeying there or sending money) or to carry out "individual jihad" by carrying out attacks on all nonmuslims world wide. There have been thousands of examples of muslims doing just that.

Thankfully most do not become jihadists but a very large percentage of muslims do support jihad and terrorism against all nonbelievers. That is a real danger but even worse are the people who choose to politically support and enable jihad. AQ, ISIS, and all of the other Islamic militant groups talk about it and it is only western liberals who roll their eyes and ignore it.

No-one is ignoring it. We are simply not of the belief that we need go to the extremes you want.

Key fact in most of the examples you and gtwat have posted lately? The attacks were stopped before they could be carried out. The existing system is working, by and large, so why throw away our rights and engage in dangerous rhetoric against non-Jihadist Muslims when focusing on the ones who are the problem has largely succeeded?

Doubtless you will now cite the attacks that have succeeded, but even Israel has not prevented attacks completely, and they've gone a lot further than many of us would stomach.

I hope your first paragraph is true. As of right now I am not convinced.

Are you more or less convinced of it than you were that the Qur'an was arraigned chronologically?

Or like then are you just making shit up again, as you and @gturner so often do?

Honestly, when I read it I just read it and didn't try to keep track of chronology and assumed it went front to back. I do have been told by several muslims in Iraq that when verse contradict each other the most recent ones supercede the earlier ones.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/w...lied-about-isis-stabbing-prosecutors-say.html

That's actually true, although it's contorversial among Muslims as to what it applies to, and how.
The older (and thus abrogated) verses are held as being the work of Satan, hence The Satanic Verses.

Assuming he isn't actually nuts enough to wound himself just to frame Islamists, I wonder why he lied? Maybe tried it on with a student, got fought off and had to explain the injuries?

So you admit to ignorance. That's rather refreshing from you.

Well that is unfortunate as it harms people who really do suffer attacks.

Isn't it unfortunate because it fans the flames of anti-muslim hatred, how many clowns will have been using this story to pedal their views all over the internet?

Quite a few I would imagine........

The European mainstream is starting to agree with Orban after they spent the first months of the migrant crisis demonizing him as a racist xenophobic hater.

You mean there's more than one person on the autism spectrum who posts on this internet message board, which split off from a Star Trek message board? You don't say?

It is nice to see reality is having some effect on people.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...rica-refuses-british-muslim-family-disneyland