Trump wants to stop all Muslims from coming into the US

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  1. Dinner

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    The Independent is claiming this guy had previously been denied entry into Israel on the grounds that he was a national security threat while the US is saying his 18 year old son (who was among this guy's nine children traveling with him, he supposedly has multiple wives yet none of the wives were invited to go with him to Disney) had made pro-Islamic radical posts on Facebook. The Imam denies anything to do with the Facebook posts but it has been confirmed they came from his IP address at his house.

    Sounds like a good stop to me.
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    You whine like a little bitch. I am ignoring your troll thread because I do not want to feed your troll. If you actually want people to bother reading and responding to your posts then don't post troll posts, you whiny little cunt.

    As it is I mostly just skip over your posts unless I happen to see something especially stupid to make fun of. That you keep crying and begging for attention just makes me smile.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...k-flights-after-discrimination-complaint.html

    Just days ago Kuwait Airlines shut down their NYC to London flight because the US State department was going to sue the living shit out of them. Kuwait Airlines has a no Israelis policy and has been accused of discrimating against Jewish passengers.

    That was real systematic discrimination there but why did Chup make a thread about how evil the big bad US was for not letting terrorist supporters in yet for some reason he couldn't be bothered to speak up about antisemiticism among an Arab airline which is still operating in his own country?

    Yep, our local terrorism enabling SJW seems to have a giant blind spot. Systematic discrimination against Jews doesn't merit a peep out of him but an outspoken Imam with ties to terrorism gets big crocodile tears from him. What a douche bag.
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    But Israelis are such a big terrorist threat!

    Back in 1926 an Jew spilled a bag of diamonds on a flight during some turbulence and the resulting stampede to the tail section caused the aircraft to lose control and crash!

    But Kuwait may actually have a valid point. If any Muslim on their flights thinks there might be an Israeli Jew on board, they will probably bring down the plane to collect their 72 virgins with tasty vaginas.

    It's kind of like an attack-dog school having a no squirrel pet policy.
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    So you're saying it makes sense to check individual backgrounds and control entrance on that basis?
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  6. El Chup

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    Need I remind you of my own ethnic heritage, and that I've mentioned on here on more than one occasion that my grandfather's family lost people in the Holocaust. It's the very reason I detest your bigotry. So don't try and play the "he doesn't care about antisemitism" game with me. That's literally going as low as you can.

    The actions of a commercial airline have little to do with the policy of the United Kingdom government. Airlines from all over the world travel to and from the UK and US, and many from countries whose laws we do no approve of. I had not heard this story, but I am aware that some Islamic nations deny entry to Israelis. It is not a practice I condone, nor do I condone an airline doing it. However you and the media once again fall into the trap of equating Jews with Israelis. Many of the countries that deny entry to Israelis still allow Jews to enter and have Jews living there. Iran, for instance, does not allow Israelis but has a 10k strong Jewish population and a Jewish MP. Kuwait itself is in the process of building a Synagogue for Jewish visitors and residents. Similarly, both the United States and the United Kingdom do not operate an equal immigration system for all nationalities, with some facing far more restrictions that others. You might want to check the additional restrictions the US has just announced these past coulpe of weeks. This isn't ethnic or religious profiling. It is restrictions against nationals of a country, not Jews. Therefore your comparison to your own bigoted proposal is false.

    Yet again, you fail. :lol:
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    Which is exactly what happened here. Individuals and family connections along with what they posted on the internet as well as the advice of allies such as Israel.

    Any way you look at it this was a good call and that guy nor his spawn should be let in if there is a single question about any of them.
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    1) Kuwait Airlines flies to the UK so the discrimination is occurring in the UK, you bilious pile of dog droppings.

    2) Many Arab countries have discrimatory laws against both Jews and Arabs yet you consistently ignore all of them yet never seem to miss a chance to make a thread going after the US or Israel for even the most mild form of screening imaginable, you putrid analysis pustule.

    3) The airline refused service to a Jewish woman with American citizenship as well as Israeli citizenship. That is a violation of American law thus why they were going to get sued. Every business must follow the laws of the countries in which they operate yet the UK still lets Kuwait Airlines and numerous other airlines discriminate.

    4) You declaring yourself a winner after you have been consistently called out and smacked around for being the biased, bigoted, and disingenuous just makes me laugh. You really are just a lonely little shut in living in a fantasy world, aren't you?
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    I believe you missed @Packard's point, which is that such methods are the most reliable approach, rather than the blanket exclusion policy some advocate.
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  10. El Chup

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    Yeah, meanwhile who is the one who has people agreeing with him over and over while you get called a racist and get no support? ;) Who do you have in your corner? The laughable gturner? :lol:

    That's why you lose matey, not because I say so.
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    I, personally, have not advocated a blanket exclusion. I have advocated a much more restrictive immigration policy designed to fill this country's economic needs first and thst means stopping most unskilled immigration letting in mainly highly skilled workers.

    Of course, there should also be much more thorough security checks and no one from a high risk group should be let in until those checks are completed with any blanks and even slightly suspect information automatically leading to rejection. That will stop making the terrorism problem worse by stopping all but the most skilled, most likely to intigrate, most likely to find jobs and not need public assistance people in. Cultural awareness and being able to intigrate should be part of any points system. As an added bonus once we stop flooding the country with low skilled and/or unskilled foreign labor the bottom 2/3rds of people already in this country will no longer see their wages stagnant as they have for the last 35 years.

    That is what I mean by having a policy which is good for both America and Americans.
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    You sound just like a Republican. "Everyone in my echo chamber agrees with me so I must be right!" Let's just admit WF is not a very representative sample these days, shall we?
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    Of what, bigots? I dunno, you and oldfella try your best....
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  14. El Chup

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    Yes. I agree. Most of the racists like you post at Stormfront. :yes:
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    Yes, yes, we all know the old maximum which is so popular here. If anyone disagrees with the collective for any reason they are racist bigots who must be destroyed. Sadly, you are too short sighted to understand how you have been in doctrinated and are demanding ideological purity as much as any RINO hunting right wing Republican.

    If they are not of the body then they must be destroyed. It is the SJW credo. 100% conformity is all that matters. If they dare to say immigration should be reduced for any reason, even good reasons like so wages for the bottom 2/3rds can rise or so existing cultures can continue to exist, then they must be extinguished.
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    Remember, preferring to take in Syrian Christians over Syrian Sunnis = racism.
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    Ummmmm...yeah.

    :borg:
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    See what I mean? Anyone who disagrees with any point for any reason must be lied about, slandered, and reduced to a character which does not remotely resemble the truth. It is so much easier to fight invented strawman arguments than deal with reality.

    This is why I laugh at and ignore El Chup, he is a fucking clown, a clown who whines when someone ignores his troll threads and decides not to feed the worthless troll.
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    They never could understand the difference between culture/religion and race. They truly are the most racist people because EVERYTHING to them is about race. Unless it is a nonwhite person demanding race based privileges then it some how isn't racist. That just shows what morally bankrupt racists they are.
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    Says the guy who keeps responding to El Chup when he thinks he has a point to make and otherwise mentions him in posts more than anyone else on the board. ;)

    Fail number 7376.
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    More lies from the liar. :jayzus:
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    A few weeks ago I was in the lobby of my apartment building and there was a couple with a small child waiting to do a tour of the building. The person conducting the tour asked the man for identification, which he didn't have on him at that moment and which he hadn't been asked for at other buildings where they'd gone to look at apartments. He got very angry because, being a Muslim, he assumed, quite reasonably, that he was being profiled, even though this was just the normal policy for my building. They left without looking at apartments.

    That's what happens when bigoted profiling and group punishment are practiced by the government and seen as acceptable in much of the mainstream: you alienate people, exactly the people you need the most to deal with the problem you claim to be addressing by engaging in profiling and group punishment. What I saw there was a well-to-do, moderate Muslim family that sees themselves being grouped with terrorists and would never trust or help out anyone they suspected of engaging in profiling.
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    Except, sadly, the US does not profile so the guy was stupid as well as a whiny bitch. Personally, I have no problem with profile as it leads to a more efficient allocation of resources based upon risk assessments. Start giving the military age male and female muslims extra security screening instead of wasting resources on enhanced screening for 80 year old grannies from Oshkosh.

    There would still be basic screening for everyone but enhanced screening for high risk groups. Which is as it should be.
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    A lot of people in certain area would consider me part of a "high risk group."

    Fuck you. When you get followed around in stores for no reason and get told a position is full from a recent job posting just to see a new pale face three weeks later, you don't just shrug off discrimination as acceptable for anyone. :dayton:
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    They're not screening to reduce potential thefts, they're screening for those who might decapitate the boss and all the other employees for an ISIS video. In Europe some of them have the problem of an immense sense of self-entitlement, where if you hire one, nothing remotely Christian can go on in their presence and they get to do whatever they want at work because Islam. Although many aren't afflicted by it, the ones that won't let go of their culture give some insight into why the entire Middle East, combined, produces less non-petroleum exports than tiny little Norway.
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    I am not seeing any discrimination here. Especially since far more factors than race are used to build a profile.

    Hell, it would even be perfectly legal as long as race is not the only factor; which it never would be. For me, effectiveness and efficient use of resources are exactly what we should be maximizing.
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    There goes that liar Chup with his false equivalencies yet again. As has been explained to you many times Sunni Islamic fundamentalist groups are literally following, to the letter, the directives written by the pedophile prophet. Cults like the LRA is not literally or even figuratively following any directive from Christ in any way, shape, or form so you are just being a liar when you claim the two are the same.

    One is literally following their religion's teachings while the other is not.
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    What difference does it make? Insanity in the name of religion is still insane. I guarantee that if enough Christian psychotics with Dayton's views and Obama's charisma got in power, we could easily become the Middle East in a few generations.
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    No, we couldn't. We had people like that running the country quite often over the past two centuries. We just got rich and put a man on the moon.
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    If you're referring to Kennedy being Catholic, of all his shortcomings as a President, his flaunting religion wasn't one of them.