Trump wants to stop all Muslims from coming into the US

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  1. gturner

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    Yeah, because Muslims would never single out Jews for hatred.
     
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    The whiter minorities married into Anglican families or in the case of many Germans post WWI, changed their names upon arrival. I'm sure that was the reason that lot wasn't put into internment camps during WWII. :bailey:

    For those of us with skin darker than a manila envelope or almond shaped eyes, the integration and acceptance came a lot more slowly.
     
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    The main reason being something like 50% of the US population was at least partially German. It would not be practical to lock up half the population.
     
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    My point exactly. Germans could easily pass for Anglican because of their white skin. Japanese, Mexicans, Chinese and all the other minorities, not so much.
     
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    The latter half of that describes why Germans had a better time, rather than showing they had a hard time, and WW1 wasn't about arriving in the US. But I would like to know more about the organised anti-German efforts; I hadn't heard of those.
     
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    We started calling frankfurters, weiners, and dachshund sandwiches "hot dogs" and later King George renamed his family "Windsor" instead of "Saxe-Coburg and Gotha."
     
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    There were a number of nativist movements in the 19th century. The Know Nothings, The American Party, The Immigration Restriction League, etc...

    All of them basically targeted everyone who was not a British Protestant including other northern European Protestants and they absolutely hated Catholics of any stripe.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

    You will notice the two main groups the Know Nothings targeted were Germans and Irish. Forget southern Europeans or nonwhites because at that time it was not legal for them to immigrate here.
     
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    No. A great deal don't....and my comment was about Muslims. It was about gullible western bigots like you and Dinner.
     
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    But two million Muslims is?
     
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    You don't have to worry about the Muslims who aren't trying to kill you. You have to worry about the ones who are. Thus the talk of French Jews all leaving for the US or Israel.
     
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    Why do you keep lying? I sure as hell have never advocated locking any group up.

    That you have to constantly lie and invent strawman arguments which you falsely attempt to attribute to other people shows you know you are full of shit.
     
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    So what are you going to do about home grown radicals?
     
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    If they break the law then of course you try them. The most import than is to stop making the problem worse and that means reforming immigration laws.

    This has been explained to you many times but you just seem to enjoy lying about other people's positions because that is the type of guy you are.
     
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    Why don't you religiously profile them? You said they're dirty animals. Why religiously and ethnically profile people at the border if you're not going to bother with the two million inside the country?

    You're saying you want a preventative measure for one group but for the other you'll wait until there's a crime before doing anything. An inconsistent approach wouldn't you say? Surely registering them and maybe having them report once a week might be a good idea? That might prevent more attacks, no?
     
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    A good profile includes as many data points as possible and does not rely just one one data point. Also, yes, your average muslim does indeed believe some pretty fucked up shit which should offend any liberal person.

    A few of you here seem to think horrible beliefs are A.O.K. as long as they come from nonwhite people. I call out all of them for being bad regardless of race where as you guys defend that nonsense if it comes from certain groups. That is what makes you and your cohorts the real bigots here.
     
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    Attempting to appease the Islamic extremists doesn't result in muslims helping authorities identify youth at risk to radicalization.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4649979.ece

    Almost no community support among Muslims for the anti-radicalization intervention plans by the UK government. The idea was to identify people at risk for radicalization and to do an intervention. The problem is the Muslim community does not want any intervention by authorities against radicals.
     
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    I think the FBI found much the same in this country. The imams want to handle it internally. Some of that might be an extension of how Muslims will punish sons and daughters for bringing shame to the family. Do not air dirty laundry in public. If something does get out they family often publicly disowns the one accused of offenses against Islam, such as the first female fighter pilot from the UAE whose family disowned her for leading strike missions against ISIS.
     
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    Yeah I'm thinking she might not be the life of the party at her family functions.
     
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    I have routinely derided all religion, including in replies to you. What makes you think I agree with any religious belief? That's another straw man offered on the foundation that believing in someone's right to practice religion peacefully somehow means we agree with their beliefs. Another insufferably stupid claim.

    Oh, and what are we bigoted against? Do you even know what the word means?

    Also, your never answered my question (yet again). Why aren't you profiling the two million American Muslims as a preventative measure? They vastly outnumber those trying to enter the US with a view to settlement. What's your preventative plan for them? I put it to you that this is yet another question you are incapable of answering.
     
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    No.
     
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    Annnnnnnd there we go. Straight back to being a coward. :yes:
     
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    What's cowardly about not letting your house fill up with violent homeless people? Seems more like common sense.
     
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    I'm talking about his tactics of changing the subject when he gets a question too hard to answer.

    You know, the same tactic you frequently use liar boy.
     
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    :lol:

    It told you I just scroll past your posts most of the time and generally don't bother reading or responding to them because you are a dishonest troll. Stop being a troll and maybe after a few weeks I might think you aren't a complete waste of my time. :lol:

    You really are more needy and attention seeking than a five year old. Then you get made when people roll their eyes and decide reading your trolls are a waste of time (especially when they fall into the tl;dr catagory). :lol:
     
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    He is mad because I stopped reading most of his posts last week. Especially the long winded trolls. Poor Chup is the poopie pants gets upset when people ignore him because he is a troll who doesn't get taken seriously.
     
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    You answer my posts far more than you scroll past them, especially when you think you have a point to make.

    What you don't seem to grasp is that not answering questions put to you means you don't have the mental strength or intelligence to articulate your viewpoint. But simply changing the subject and then repeatedly banging the same drum it only reduces your credibility.

    Plus, if you are going to call someone a bigot then have the balls to tell them how they are...you know like I tell you all the time. Out but you can't, because we aren't. That sort of intellectual weakness is why you will continue to be inferior and got nobody's backing.
     
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    If only that were true and you really were ignoring me grudge boy. Even @Anna was calling you on it. :rofl:
     
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