All Black comic book characters should be replaced with white actors for film adaptations

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Answer the question. You said no to my question, can you show us a picture of a non white Mary Jane Watson, yes or no?
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Already answered.

    Now answer mine, jackwagon.
  3. Ten Lubak

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    Yep:

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  4. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Who better than I to understand the challenges faced by a black man in America? I have a long and deep history of understanding of black culture and issues. For I, myself, am black.

    If my camera wasn't down, I could show you the photo of me colored in dark-skinned for proof.

    Geez, that was easy. Fucking A. And now I get this black thing - in fact, I don't know why blacks complain about how rough it is counting out the other blacks around - piece of cake.

    Just focus on the coloring thing, and everything will work out okay.
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  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Can it be a set pic of Zendaya, or are you a stickler for an official Marvel released photo?
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No you didn't.
  7. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Well, gosh. It doesn't even count because she's only half black. Just lame novelty casting.

    (*waves to Dayton, Ghost Muad and Ghost Sokar :diacanu: )
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  8. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Ten Lubak beat me to it.

    So, you still gonna fap to her or naw? :diacanu:
  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Since you can't answer the question, I'll assume you're full of shit. Actually I know you're full of shit because I know that Mary Jane has always been depicted as a white girl. I have that asshole on ignore, I have no idea what he said, nor do I care.
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    No, I think his estate had those pictures destroyed.

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  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    We're talking about Mary Jane Watson from the Spider-Man comics, do try and keep up.
  12. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Who the fuck cares?
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  13. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Dude, take a step back from yourself, and look how bent out of shape you're getting.

    You've got three movies, hundreds of hours of cartoons, and several dump trucks full of comics with white redhead Mary Jane.
    No one's gonna take that from you.
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    Sure she did. You were so frightened of the actual argument that you insisted, repeatedly and explicitly, on getting purely a yes or no answer. Which is what you got: It's No.

    If that failure convinces you to go back and actually engage in the real discussion the adults are having, the question to you is still why race would be in any way important to the core of her character, more than any number of other characteristics routinely changed and ignored both from artist to artist and from comics to the movies.
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  15. Steal Your Face

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    @Lanzman was right, I guess none of you care about continuity and the only thing you care about is " look at us we have diversity, yeah!" Never mind they're also race bending Flash Thompson. But hey we can dye anyone's hair red and call them Mary Jane and that makes it so, right?
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  16. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    If the answer is no, then prove it, show us a picture of Mary Jane Watson from the comics where she's shown to be anything other than white. If and when you do that then and only then can this conversation move forward. If the answer is yes, then why would you cast her as anything other than a white girl?
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    Leave me out of this. I've already been convinced that the only possible reason for disliking these random changes is racism. It can't possibly have anything to do with respect for source material or like that.

    Nope. It's all just pure racism.
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  18. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You mean in the Marvel universe, which has infinite alternate universes, which is the entire premise of "What If?".
    The Marvel universe that created Spider-Gwen with an alternate universe?
    The Marvel universe that erased Spidey's marriage to Mary Jane with a timeline reboot?

    Tell me more about this thing called "continuity".
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  19. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Yes, we're both racists, I know.
  20. Ten Lubak

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    Well yeah, exactly.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    And in all of those universes what was Mary Jane's race?
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    The content of the comics is against you, the plot of the comics is against you, the spirit of the comics is against you, Stan Lee has just said he's against you, and of course the current Marvel producers are against you. I've pointed out storylines, panels, speeches and topics from 50 years of Spider-Man and other comics. You have ignored all of it.

    And btw, the answer to your question is indeed No, see SSM #217, part of the clone saga aftermath, Ben Reilly starring. Which would be as completely and utterly besides the point as your question was, if it didn't serve to showcase just how little you care for the material you're supposedly defending.

    But sure, go on claiming we don't care about continuity or the comic books. It's not as if anyone can stop you, with your fingers so firmly in your ears.
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    As I've said before, tell me in all honesty that Movieverse MJ from the 2000s resembles the one from the movies or the 90s animated series.

    Respecting continuity by ass.
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  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Given that there are trillions, and Marvel has only explored a few hundred, hard to say.
    In the MCU, she's going to be Zendaya though, so there's one.
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  25. Shirogayne

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    Whelp, that's that, then.

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  26. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    All you two would need is a pair of colored inking pencils and you'd be set.

    Surprising that you never hear from a thinking black person actually insulted by the idea that only a different pencil separates the life of a black person from a "regular" person. [to explain it simply to the Annas: life is supposed to be about the person, the skin coloring is supposed to be incidental. As long as black racists and society make it simply about skin and pencil colors, the black "movement" will remain in reverse gear. And by "Annas" I mean the simple-minded geniuses, obviously.]
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    You didn't look hard enough.
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  28. Steal Your Face

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    So I'm just imagining things, she hasn't been depicted as white for fifty years?
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    Looky there, she's white. I guess I wasn't imagining things.
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