Manchester bombed by goat fuckers

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  1. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I've been less hot on Mariah after the boob job. I thought she was perfect before that.
    Ariana's merely average-cute.
  2. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    Which is an improvement!
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  3. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    And now, of course, we hear "known to the police," "on a watch list," and "recently returned from a trip to Libya." ALL the red flags and warning signs. WTF??
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  4. Skrain Dukat

    Skrain Dukat Banned

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    we don't want to profile. Muslims aren't terrorists.
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  5. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    And of course, someone is required to say that (probably by law!) every time.
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  6. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    What do you suggest? Take all such people into custody?
  7. Skrain Dukat

    Skrain Dukat Banned

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    Works on Cardassia.

    We were fine til the bloody maquis showed up
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Three more animals arrested on connection to this attack. The UK needs a feral animal removal project
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  10. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Yes, go to the most extreme solution possible. :facepalm: Is there no middle ground?
    How about, if they're on a watch list, WATCH THEM? Especially if they've recently come back from Libya/Syria/etc, which often seems to be prelude to these attacks.
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    I agree. As a citizen of the UK - fuck off.
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  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Budget cuts, siloing of information (remember how the CIA and the FBI weren't speaking to each other prior to 9/11?), territoriality (local cops resenting what they see as "interference" by overarching agencies in "their" investigations), etc.

    IOW, human error compounded by the kind of institutional insecurity that makes humans ignore anything they don't want to read or hear.

    And other factors.
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    I agree. As a citizen of the UK - Fuck off yourself.

    Dual national for the win! :)
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  14. matthunter

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    We don't care for duals around here.

    Or tedious little cunts for that matter.
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    If you guys really felt that way then this dual national Libyan wouldn't have blown himself at a concert, wouldn't he?
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    If I could blow myself, I wouldn't commit suicide, no.
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  17. Ebeneezer Goode

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    Things is, we can't seem to be able to have an adult conversation about Islam and the West.

    Speaking of men, we are able to discuss domestic violence - we can recognise that it is mostly men responsible without it being read as all (or even a majority of) men being responsible, and we can brush off those who do try that as being kooks.

    So why the fuck can't we do that about Islam? Doesn't mean it has to be one-sided (the West has its share of reciprocated issues), but there is a definite discussion about Islam to be had and its role in Western societies (and no, I'm not suggesting removal of rights) but nobody seems that keen on having it except the mentalists.
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  18. Ebeneezer Goode

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    No, because it doesn't work.

    The Asian drug suppliers in my neck of the woods got tired of having their communications monitored so they went back to basics. Fireworks are now used to convey some basic information as it's bit hard to get "er, loud bangs in the sky m'lud" to be regarded as evidence.

    Plus any backdoors will be identified by hackers and criminals alike. The ransomware attack the other week should give you an insight as to why that would be bad.
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    Ebeneezer Goode Gobshite

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    I'm hoping some common sense will seep in. Amber Rudd is the thickest Home Sec we've had since, err, Theresa May, so I'm not that hopeful, but for once I'm hoping Google's malignant hentai-rapey tentacles in government orifices will do some actual good for something other than Google.
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  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because we have always been at war with Oceania. Tiny-minded humans need an "enemy" to push against in order to justify - even verify - their own puny existences (as witness who in this forum always comes down on the side of “they is all teh Evul and must be destroyed”).

    Making a distinction between the small number who commit crimes and the entirety of the group overheats their tiny little brains. If he'd been born two generations earlier, Dimmer would have been bitching about some other Not Like Me group (Catholics and “nigras” instead of Muslims and Mexicans, perhaps) just to stand out by contrast.
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  21. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    You just can't help yourself can you? Everything is a strawman with you because reality is just to complicated for you to deal with.
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  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You're the strawman, Bubba. Your inability to explain yourself is only enhanced by your immediate default to insults. Do it again.
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  23. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    The debate is between those who believe one can be both a good Muslim and a good citizen of a Western democratic state, and those who insist that Islam is wholly incompatible with the modern world.

    The Islamist extremists and the Western Muslim-haters are on the same side of it.
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  24. Dinner

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    And yet I haven't defaulted to insults with you, have I? No, that would be what you did along with make up lies and attempt to attribute them to other people. The classic definition of a strawman which you, once again, failed to knock over.

    Reality must be too difficult for you thus why you constantly make up "alternative facts" to hide behind. It is kind of sad. :shrug:
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  25. Skrain Dukat

    Skrain Dukat Banned

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    but idiots like garahag refuse that ISIS are Islamists. They start ranting that the christians in the 12th century were bad and look the other way.

    There are a billion muslims, lets say 1% of them are terrorists, that's 10 million terrorists. lets say .25% of them are terrorists, thats 2.5 million! That's a LOT of soldiers in a an army that doesn't respect the rules of war and want to murder as many innocents as possible.

    If Islam is so peaceful, why are lefties so afraid to criticize them?

    If Christian's are so evil and dangerous and kill and bomb and commit crusades, why are they so easily mocked and ridiculed by the left?
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  26. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So every post you've ever made about "animals" is a lie? Apparently my only mistake was in thinking you were being truthful. It's not too late for you to set the record straight. :bailey:

    Link?
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  27. matthunter

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    Actually it's because it's so easy to burn him.
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  28. Skrain Dukat

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    It's a generalized statement. see rose o'donnell and whopi goldberg.
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  29. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    You're working with a hell of a lot of unfounded assumptions there.

    Yes, there is a huge problem with Islam and terrorism. But the fight is not Islam vs. the West. The fight is those Muslims who wish to coexist with modernity vs. those Muslims who view modernity as an existential threat to their religion and way of life. The West gets dragged into it incidentally, as the source of modern ideas, as well as in some cases former imperial overlords.

    Terrorists want you to blame all Muslims for their acts of evil. They want Muslims living in the West to believe they will never be accepted as equal citizens. Don't play into their hands.
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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Then address your comments to them...if you dare.