BREAKING: U.S. Civil War commences

I'll be on the lookout. I feel a riot coming on.

LOL all these predictions of death, destruction and communism from OF and yet when we actually had a Dem President that we voted for because he engaged us, rather than literally NOT BEING A HUMAN SHITSTAIN WHO JUST CALLED FOR SEDITION... we STILL didn't actually do any of the delusional shit you say we will.

I think you're an absolutist. You think every Republican voter is as just as bad as him and you don't allow for any nuance. You think they all worship Trump, they don't. Most of them I know don't like him at all. You think they all believe the election was rigged, they don't. You think they all are just like the people who stormed the capitol, they're not. You think they're all okay with what happened, they're not. You let your anger and your hate for Trump guide you and blind you and you don't allow for any exceptions. I'm sorry, I just don't/can't think like that.

So you don't vote then?

I think you have your head up your ass.

About half of all Republicans believe President Donald Trump “rightfully won” the U.S. election but that it was stolen from him by widespread voter fraud that favored Democratic President-elect Joe Biden, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.
68% of Republicans concerned election was ‘rigged’

The Nov. 13-17 opinion poll showed that Trump’s open defiance of Biden’s victory in both the popular vote and Electoral College appears to be affecting the public’s confidence in American democracy, especially among Republicans.

Altogether, 73% of those polled agreed that Biden won the election while 5% thought Trump won. But when asked specifically whether Biden had “rightfully won,” Republicans showed they were suspicious about how Biden’s victory was obtained.

Fifty-two percent of Republicans said that Trump “rightfully won,” while only 29% said that Biden had rightfully won.

Asked why, Republicans were much more concerned than others that state vote counters had tipped the result toward Biden: 68% of Republicans said they were concerned that the election was “rigged,” while only 16% of Democrats and one-third of independents were similarly worried.

Even before winning the 2016 election, Trump kept up a drumbeat of complaints about the process, claiming without evidence that it was unfair to him.

Since Biden amassed enough electoral votes to win the White House on Nov. 7, Trump has ramped up those criticisms, telling his supporters that he is the victim of widespread illegal voting.

Trump has failed to give any proof for his claims and has not been able to back them up in court, however. Republicans announced this week that they were dropping federal election lawsuits in Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The poll showed that more Americans appear to be more suspicious about the U.S. election process than they were four years ago.

Altogether, 55% of adults in the United States said they believed the Nov. 3 presidential election was “legitimate and accurate,” which is down 7 points from a similar poll that ran shortly after the 2016 election. The 28% who said they thought the election was “the result of illegal voting or election rigging” is up 12 points from four years ago.

The poll showed Republicans were much more likely to be suspicious of Trump’s loss this year than Democrats were when Hillary Clinton lost four years ago.

In 2016, 52% of Democrats said Hillary Clinton’s loss to Trump was “legitimate and accurate,” even as reports emerged of Russian attempts to influence the outcome. This year, only 26% of Republicans said they thought Trump’s loss was similarly legitimate.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 1,346 respondents, including 598 Democrats and 496 Republicans, and has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 5 percentage points.

Reporting by Chris Kahn, editing by Ross Colvin and Sonya Hepinstall

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.



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This would be great if the constant "well, if they aren't that, let them condemn it!!" shit hadn't been laid at the feet of 98% of Muslims since 9/11.

You're gonna apologize every fucking day for the next decade. And if we even suspect you aren't being sincere, you start over.

Those are the GOP's rules, not ours.

You don’t know me at all, sport. Not even a little.

Damn. I'd have to be online constantly to keep up with this thread.

So far this morning, I've read an article that 13 of the insurgents have been charged in federal court - including zip tie vet, dude who stole Pelosi's podium, and dude who sat at Pelosi's desk with his feet on her desk; and an article that included a video of the rioters chanting ... something like "Hang Pence". It was earlier, so I don't remember the exact words. But it was posted on MSNBC if you want to go find it.

Oh. I forgot. One other thing. In case you wish to get beforehand info on the Jan 20 insurrection, go to https://thedonald.win/ It's all right there.

Are any of your friends missing? Seriously, you are probably the person most likely to lose a friend or two for this around here.

I will be totally OK wen those rioting insurgents come back with guns and the cops use them for target practice. Total justified shooting.

Increasingly, we're finding that these Trump supporters are fairly well off. So much for the 2016 narrative of "economic anxiety."

Just due to the cold at this time of year.

Seriously, check in on the elderly. Before they check out.

Okay then. Do you think all Republicans are Trump sycophants?

Yeah, I've been OC sprayed and lemme say you ain't gonna be talking for a good long minute and your face will be inflamed for hours.

Found a post on Tumblr who listed the most prominent terrorists, and nearly all of them come from wealthy backgrounds. Most, including the San Diego veteran Karen who got her ass capped and kicked it, own their own businesses. Many others hold office in their local cities and states.

As was mentioned earlier, there is no "economic struggle" for why these folks took time and money to go across country in many cases to storm the Capitol, or else marginalized people who have gone up there en masse ages ago.

Mitt Romney isn't. He could stand to go further, but he voted for Trump's impeachment at risk of his life and has dragged Ted Cruz And that Hawley bloke for encouraging this crap.

I think y'all are Germans still trying the "we didn't know!!" shit after 1945 rather than the Germans who realized they needed to STFU and get on with several decades of national penance.

Well I knew Johnson didn't stand a chance in 2012 so I wish Romney would have won, maybe we would have avoided all of this because Trump wouldn't have stood a chance either.

Of course not.

But all Trump sycophants are Republicans.

And to remind you of the oldfellator post I responded to:

So, yeah. Of course the nutty people he's referring to from Wednesday are Republicans.

You act as though the right didn't have choices in 2016. There were plenty, way more than the left had, which was the reason Bernie Sanders ran in the first place. Y'all really didn't have to support the guy who mocked the disabled and threw POWs under the bus.

I mean, the left (the white affluent part that is least affected by who wins, at least) has never had a problem playing hard to get, which is why we got a second term of Bush. It's why @Amaris was screaming at the top of her lungs that Biden would lose and he damn well would have under any moderately competent candidate. I'm glad she was proven wrong on that.

And she's not entirely wrong on how feckless our leaders on in the DNC, but if anyone on the left came anywhere near pulling this shit, they'd be gone. Look no further than how quickly Al Franken was removed from office and pushed to resign.

(Yes, Tererun, Biden Also Bad and I'll welcome further investigation into Tara Reade, but one catastrophe at a time)

Literally any of the other GOP candidates that year would've been better than *rump and, yes, I know Cruz was in that group.

I still wouldn't have voted for them, but I believe they would've at least been competent presidents.

The right was tired of mainstream Republicans because they never adhere to conservative principles and Trump was a Washington outsider so they chose him. Everyone else was a Washington insider.

At some point, you need to ask if it's them that's the problem...

The host of the apprentice had a history of adhering to conservative principles?

He had a history of adhering to no principles whatever, which was the next best thing.

Or indeed even better, to the Randist fuckwads who'd invaded the GOP with the Tea Party idiocy.

He fired a bunch of people publicly, which is a favorite conservative pastime.

Sherman: Burn this mofo to the ground.
Abrams: Hold on, fam, I got this. We're gonna make this a blue fire!
Sherman: ...I'll get the s'mores.

and by "outsider" we mean unqualified for and incapable of their duties in public office.

can we finally admit that allowing robber barons to run a country like they would a business is a bad idea?