Cancel Culture Doesn't Exist

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    You call the people offended by Carano's deeply stupid and offensive views a "screech mob," as though regular people have no right to express an opinion about someone else's opinions. :chris:

    You call responding to negative customer feedback "indulgence," as though customers don't constantly influence what products a company offers. :chris:
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  2. Amaris

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    Why is it okay for her to speak and other people not to respond to her accusations? No one should be outside of criticism when they make statements like that.

    Anyway, what frustrates me about the whole QAnon thing is that sometimes these people are so close, and yet so far off. For example, is there a child sex ring in Hollywood? Oh, I'm sure of it. Same for high profile politicians. These people have money and connections, and there's plenty of smoke and more than a little fire, of which the case of Jeffrey Epstein and his "lolita express" is a prime example. The problem? They think it's a grand combined Hollywood/Democrat conspiracy culminating in the basement of a pizzeria, and they think Donald fucking Trump is the guy who's going to fix it, the guy who is likely a popular passenger on said express.

    I have family who will be like "the government doesn't give a damn about what poor people need," and I start to nod my head like "yes, this is true," and then they'll follow it up with "which is why I trust Trump. He's going to drain the swamp," and I just want to vomit out of my soul because it's like they're about to hit the target and then <ping> glancing blow off of a fruit loop, arrow goes wide. I'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
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  3. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The fact that she wouldn't even pay lip service to being sorry for the appearance of being antisemitic speaks volumes.

    And they should fucking have some Words™ with Dawson too. :borg:
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  4. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The thing about people who spew off in outrage over celeb sex rings are all too quick to turn a blind eye to whichever high school quarterback, preacher, football coach or other Esteemed Person™ in their ranks that.

    Hollywood doesn't need to enable pedophilia when the rest of us give abusers a pass.
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  5. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    Gym Jordan agrees!
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  6. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Once again, slower for the slower among us:
    AS THE TERM IS BEING USED BY CRITICS
    One of the key components of how it's being used is that it's a new and dangerous threat that the increasingly radical left has escalated to.

    And it does happen to people "on my side" - regularly. Particularly against university professors.
    Moreover, I haven't taken a position on whether I'm fine with it in general or in specifics, I said from the jump that I'm ambivalent about Gina's firing. The point of this thread is not any one particular case is warranted or not, it's about right wing grifters trying to leverage a perfectly ordinary and normal thing into a "dangerous cultural crisis that must be stopped!"
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  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Just saw a tweet today in which an employee wrote a letter to his CEO criticizing the lack of investment in covid mitigation protocols like ventilation and such, was fired summarily the same day, as yet hasn't appeared on Hannity for a full throated denunciation of cancel culture.
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  8. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Any particular screech mob?

    Because one of them is a bunch of randos on social media and the other one is a multi-billion dollar propaganda machine that drive the agenda of a major political party.
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    @Uncle Albert got him a regular job with, yanno, benefits and such regardless of how much it's destroying his soul.

    Anything that threatens him be :
    :ualbert:
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  10. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    And paper checks. :yes:
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  11. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Firing someone because you want to protect the image of your brand is not any culture.

    It's standard business practise.
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  12. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Probably more than miniscule.

    Disney's revenue stream for the foreseeable is being propped up by streaming, streaming for which Mandalorian is one of a few flagship productions and aimed at a fandom already noted for being sensitive to the political leanings of their entertainmemt.

    Beyond that their share prices are being kept artificially high by people investing through lockdown in the hopes of riding an expected surge afterwards. Only a few years ago that would have been far less of a realistic prospect sans fractional shares and commission free trading apps. It's still sketchy even now and they are acutely aware of that fact, hence the motivation to protect their one main generator of actual revenue.
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  13. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Please tell me Rosario is innocent here?
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    T.R Don't Care

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    Welcome to politics in the 21st century. :shrug:

    It's a wedge issue being used by bad faith actors to drive public opinion. No different than the #metoo movement.
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  15. 14thDoctor

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    You think rape, domestic abuse, and sexual harassment in the workplace are "a wedge issue being used by bad faith actors to drive public opinion?" :chris:
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  16. tafkats

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    I mean, come on. If he doesn't personally experience a problem, how real can it be?
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  17. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    And he called me disgusting.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    :shrug:
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    And @The Ghost of Crazy Horse agrees with him! :jayzus:
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  20. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    To the extent it was not the case, it would only not be the case because the media would generally not cover the people who were being canceled. There probably was not a time when a community was not willing to shun people for being or speaking differently than some notion of orthodoxy. Things might be faster or harsher now because modern communication media make it a) more irrefutable what was said or done and b) make it easier to organize a boycott than ever bfore.
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  22. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Just a reminder that this is how the right treated the Dixie Chicks for saying they were ashamed to share a state with Bush :async: :

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  23. Ten Lubak

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    Hey so when is cancel culture going to come after Hip Hop?

    Misogynistic, violent - I mean it certainly ticks a lot of boxes for the woke crowd, does it not?
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    I'm all for cancelling hip hop.
  25. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Bill O'Reilly did for...basically his whole Fox career.
    :shrug:
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  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It ain't up to us whiteys to police black culture.
    Minimum, it's not a good look.
    Maximum, well, Bill O'Reilly.
    :shrug:
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  27. Ten Lubak

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    Considering how hip hop sales have performed over that time period to now it doesn’t really seem like Bill O’Reilly was all that good at it
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  28. Uncle Albert

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    It is not for any of us to approve or cancel someone else's entertainment. Nobody is owed a world where they are never offended, where everything they see or hear repeats their own opinions back verbatim. The human race would do well to reacquaint itself with these facts.
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  29. Ten Lubak

    Ten Lubak Salty Dog

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    Why?

    Like have you never listened to say, Outkast? Those guys produce fucking masterpieces
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  30. Ten Lubak

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    So even if a white person sees obvious sexism and promotion of violence, which unfortunately does happen from time to time in hip hop, they shouldn't speak up about it because that person is black?