Republican Voter Suppression Omnibus Thread

Maybe try to draw some more meaningful conclusions:

The Delaware voting laws are not as restrictive as the ones Georgia is now imposing.

They were not imposed in reaction to false voter fraud concerns.

They don't include transparent provisions like barring Souls to the Polls that even the proponents (as far as I have seen, anyway, and I've gone looking) have not tried to justify as anything but the transparent attempt to limit the influence of black churches in getting people to vote after services.

The only thing on that list that seems on the surface to have a racially disparate impact would be the felony component. I suppose things vary, but this liberal thinks it's messed up that any state disenfranchises people based on their criminal records. I think the right to vote should only be alienable if someone loses citizenship.

Fix what? Unless you believe Sidney Powell there's no evidence of any fraud anywhere. I certainly agree that Florida (of all places) got it right when it comes to tallying votes promptly, but that's an administrative issue, not one of basic election integrity?

That certainly sounds like a hell of a thing for Biden to say! Can you link to where he said that?

It's also important to note that the direction things are heading is often just as if not more important than where they currently are.

A state with imperfect laws that is gradually improving (or indeed is sitting static) certainly deserves to be critiqued and called out to do better.

A state on a trajectory of making things worse and disenfranchising more people needs to be called out more loudly and immediately before they get too far down that path.

Fortunately, the effective ban on Souls to the Polls was dropped.

Why do you think he thinks they're not?

Some things in florida are great, and some suck. They certainly messed up with felons voting and how they made it a sort of trap when they could have easily informed felons of their status in voting, and merely cast out any ballots where they voted while still having fines without pushing crimes on them. I like how easy it is to register and get mail in ballots. OTOH there is a huge amount of moving around to make your vote count more because of the ease of doing so. There is also the issue of out of state residents voting in local elections because they have a house they own and might stay at a couple months a year. There are a lot of northeasterners who vote in florida because their votes would be meaningless in their actual state's of residence like NY. This ends up being a huge local problem as the snowbirds then screw with local ordinances that do not effect them.

I guess there could be an argument that as a person with multiple residence you should be allowed to vote on local issues in both areas you reside, especially if you are a land owner.

So tiresome when conservatives repeat falsehoods and spread it all over social media. No Jim Bob, Delaware does not have the most restrictive voting laws in the country. And next year there will be more early voting options. It’s definitely moving in the opposite direction of Georgia.

The owner of the Atlanta Falcons is denouncing the Georgia Jim Crow, Junior law.
In a statement released Tuesday, [Arthur]Blank described the right to vote as "sacred" while calling "to make voting easier, not harder."

"Every voice and every vote matters and should be heard through our democratic process in Georgia," Blank's statement reads. "The right to vote is simply sacred. We should be working to make voting easier, not harder for every eligible citizen.

"To that end, AMBSE leadership, along with our nonprofit partners, conveyed that ideal directly to state officials in recent weeks. Our businesses and family foundation will continue to actively support efforts that advance voting access for the citizens of Georgia and across the nation."
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Nuance? You are the LEAST nuanced personality I have ever interacted with on the internet. I'll usually let stupidity like this stand. I'll roll my eyes and move on. But, no. This is the kind of stupid that gets people, quite literally, killed.

How? Remember the genocide in Rwanda? Remember it? Remember how certain NGO's wanted to do something about it? How some people wanted the US to intervene and stop the slaughter?

Do you also remember how it was the right that said, "Yeah, there's genocide in Rwanda? But, what about all the other genocides? What about them? Huh? What about them?"

Pointing out a wrong does not make you a hypocrite if you do not also point out every other wrong on the planet, no matter how miniscule.

I can say that Georgia's law is bad and wrong and I'm not required to point out how flawed my own system is next door in Alabama. Why? Because I know it's flawed.

To meet your criteria is absurd. There would have to be miles of caveats and disclaimers behind every statement.

That's not nuance, that's you being either unwilling or incapable of even a single rational thought.

Good day, sir.

The CEO of Delta Airlines is denouncing the new and improved Jim Crow law.

The Republicans have pretty clearly been ramping up to fascism over the last several decades, in hindsight. It's just that they've become way more overt in the last four years.

If you’re going to claim that science was used to justify wars, you’re going to have to come up with an example other than WWII. In Mein Kampf, Hitler says explicitly that the reason he’s opposed to Jews is that they look funny (due to things like hair and dress) and they’re culturally incompatible with Germans.

As for “proving” what one wants via science, it’s quite frequently tried and immediately falls apart because the data manipulation necessary for a thing to be “proven” under examination.

Finally, even if a religion says don’t do X, a person can claim that they’ve had a divine revelation and the old rules are invalid. For an example of this not only happening, but becoming accepted theology, one need look no farther than the changes Jesus made to Judaism and Paul made to Christianity.

That is some blatant racism right there. If we can't be racist we are going to tax the fuck out of you. Any time you want to get on the neck of blackey we have some tax cuts for you.

GA republican party needs to cut the racism loose.

WaPo Fact-Checkers Slam Biden for Georgia Election Law Claims: ‘Four Pinocchios’ (yahoo.com)

Damn are y'all gonna reign your boy Biden in or what? Did the fucker even bother to research the new voting laws? It makes drop boxes mandatory in all Georgia counties, gives all counties access to Sunday voting, etc. And yes it's thinking outside the box to have to expect minorities to get a free state ID card to prove who they are. And this is racist why exactly? Oh because Republicans are pushing this - got it!

The Post’s fact-checking “about” page notes that “Four Pinocchios” are reserved for claims that are “Whoppers.”

Biden’s characterizations have also drawn pushback from Georgia’s top election officials. “Democrats and national media outlets asserting that Georgia’s election reform will ‘restrict access’ to voting are just partisan talking points, not facts,” Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a frequent target of former president Donald Trump, said in a statement. Raffensperger’s chief operating officer, Gabriel Sterling, echoed the assessment. “The claim of voter suppression has the same level of truth as the claims of voter fraud in the last election,” he said.

Wapo is one of ours. We're doing our part or you wouldn't be crowing about it.

regardless of the news source is Biden clueless and confused, or just a fucking liar? Asking for a friend
And yes I think it's fuckin' hilarious that some folks are pushing for the Master's golf event to be moved to another location, MLB to boycott Georgia for their all-star game, and Hollywood to stop making movies here because Georgia is expanding voting - which they could figure out by researching the actual facts. But it's easier to jump on the "racism!" bandwagon and hang on tight to that narrative at all costs.

No. His handlers need to do better.

Comparing the current criticism to Trump's lies is disingenuous. There is a huge problem putting a GOP central office over all county elections when no fraud occurred.

Add to that the change in absentee voter ID it's going to help the GOP.

The ultimate argument against what Georgia is doing comes from the state leaders who told Trump to piss off and said publicly that there wasn't any fraud. So why the panicky moves to impose the new and improved Jim Crow laws?

Yes god forbid people need to show a fucking free ID! Just because you need to one to get a COVID vaccination, buy booze, cash a check, etc etc. Unless you don't think minorities are smart enough to figure out how to get an ID card - if so that's pretty damned racist IMHO. And allow poll workers to pass out water to everyone in line? How will poll workers figure out how to do that? It seems like an insurmountable task.

Agree though no voting law changes will help the GOP because Democrats know perceived racism is a hot button item, and aren't taking their foot off that gas pedal.
That's why I said the Georgia Republicans should use reverse psychology. Bend over backwards to make it easier for minorities to vote. No ID required - not even a signature match, polls open 24/7 365 for three months prior to elections, allow a month for late voting, and Lazy Boy recliners for everyone waiting in line. Give Georgia the most lax voting laws in the fucking nation bar none.

Jim Crow laws? Expanding voting access (did you read the summary of the new laws from multiple sources?) are Jim Crow laws? In your own words what part of these laws make it harder for minority voters to vote but not white voters? I'm interested in how you (not the rest of the bandwagon/peanut gallery) interpret the new laws as racist. Word to the wise don't steal any ideas from your boy Biden, he was completely wrong about....almost everything, when he griped about the "Jim Crow on steroids" Georgia voting laws.

@oldfella1962 so you really think these law changes will result in higher levels of voting?

I didn't show my ID to get my vaccine.

Way to miss the point. If we take out the term "Jim Crow" it doesn't change the fact that the state's Republican leaders told Trump to piss of and said publicly that there wasn't any fraud. So how about addressing those points?

As far as "increasing" turnout...it reminds me of when I was at Circuit City and they shortened the length of their extended warranties from 5 years to 4 years and a supervisor told us with a straight face that it would mean better value for customers.

Me neither.

And Kemp is on tape admitting this isn't about fraud.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...a-governor-voter-fraud-election-b1825320.html

The people over elections in Georgia demonstrated integrity. The Legislature didn't like the outcome, so it has decided to sideline those who have shown integrity and give the Legislature more control over elections so it gets the outcomes it wants. The Jim Crow portions are, honestly, collateral damage at this point.

I know you are being instructed by your Republican handlers to repeat this lie. But the fact of the matter is the new Georgia law does restrict voting, not expand it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...olitics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.amp.html