So what is your plan if the shit hits the fan

a narrow margin? if you believe that then "the party of fear" has already captured & enslaved you on that Democratic Party plantation! Those Capitol rioters are a fucking pathetic joke - a collection of delusional idiots & misfits. That 6 JAN riot was epic FUBAR and a one-n-done deal. Contrast that with the nearly constant attacks on state & federal properties all summer long.
That kind of shit had the potential to send the balloon up if anything would have.

Then again, crime rates are way up in many Democrat controlled cities and it's almost summer riot season, so I guess if you have a plan you might want to start fine tuning it.

Take a fucking break from the alarmist news media. Just like it freaks out the faux news crowd, it also causes others to become paranoid because all they do is blow things way out of proportion and pretend the world is ending. It just leads to meltdowns.

Let us look at the facts. The only reason congress was in trouble was they stood down the police protections to let the crazies in. Even then their people failed to fully take over a small part of DC. Let us say that same gang decided to get all violent in DC outside of congress. These are the same people who are regularly put in their place by antifa. Antifa is just a bunch of internet geeks who go fuck around with the right wing and outnumber them.

This is not civil war material. Maybe they might make a riot somewhere, but wew could get the local teenagers to shut them down because they are made up of @oldfella1962, @Paladin , and Dayton Kitchen types.

What law enforcement or military force like the national guard is being willfully dismantled? What are you talking about?

You seem to be having a bad trip. I have been there and what you need to do is turn off the news and find something relaxing and happy. OF has a nice kitten video thread in the Green Room. I suggest you go through the videos and you will feel better. In the future do not do drugs and watch the news. You do not risk jail and spend that sort of money and ruin the trip by watching the news.

almost seventy million people voted for Trump. A little less of looking to complete fucking morons to vote in their moron king because democracy is a lesson this country needs to learn. Democracy is a fucking failure because the majority of the human race is dumb as a stump. This is what you get when you rely on the LCD to pick your leaders.

Welcome to life. Life is not meant to be simple or without problems. This is not going to get any better when the vast majority of humans are shit flinging primates. We did not come from god or some great history of intelligent beings. We come from animals and have yet to actually get very far from them for the most part. Some of us may have cracked the atom, but most of us are challenged by the instructions on the shampoo bottle.

Your problem is you expect these people to vote for an intelligent and good leader. All I can say is the fan was never devoid of the shit to begin with.

I will run out of happy sauce real quick if the supply chain breaks down. Happy sauce is what lets people like me deal with the monkeys. I am old enough now to not have my entire life ahead of me and my thought is if the monkeys have ruined shit because they are violent little shits who need to hurt others, I have that in me too and I bleed any red hat trumpista I meet when they cancel the social contract.

Perhaps the monkeys need some negative reinforcement as to why the social contract needs to be maintained. Either that or making sure neckbeards are cleansed from the gene pool helps the future of mankind improve their evolutionary standard.

Until that happens calm down and change the channel. We really did not come close to losing any benefit of democracy, and the news has got your panties in a bunch.

Grab a big bowl of popcorn, sit back, turn on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and watch all the fun hijinks to the south!

Oldfella and Tererun agreeing on something is irrefutable proof that the opposite is true, right?

A 19th century style civil war won't happen in the USA. However it would be very easy for a situation like your last presidential election and the subsequent refusal of the sitting president to accept the results to spiral into larger scale violence and a literal fracturing of the country.

To think otherwise is to assume the the USA is special in some way that makes you immune to the same forces that have and will act on every other nation through history.

You inhuman monster.

I'll be turning my one bedroom condo into a shelter for cute skinny goth girl refugees from the combat zone.

I'm closer to Mexico than Canada, probably just go there because the weather a better

Too many anti-democratic state governments run by Republicans that depend on anti-democratic tricks to hold on to power, for one.

Of course you'd love to see that ill-gotten power applied at the national level.

I'll hide under some coats, and hope that somehow everything will work out.

I’d help California advocate for secession.

we might be coming at the issue from different directions but agree that things are not as dire as they seem on the news. I can't speak for Tererun but IMHO 99.9 percent of the citizens aren't plotting the demise of our country nor actively engaged in any violent political activities. But 99.9 percent of the people will never be on the news so out sight, out of mind I guess.

I've been to Bosnia - I've been to Iraq. Now those places are examples of the shit hitting the fan! All the crazy rioting shit here in America frustrates the living dog shit out of me but I guess when you consider out of thousands of cities & towns and millions of people it's nothing that will bring the whole country down. Arrest & charge everyone according is all we can do I guess.
That said I'm glad I don't live in those cities.

The USA will never spiral completely out of control - our attention spans are too short. We'd get bored and give up on a major project like splitting up the country - that takes a lot of effort ya know!

Yeah, like we got bored in Afghanistan.

Probably not the best idea. At some point, the Despot-In-Chief will decide that a good way to shore up power will be to gin up a foreign war. Go after Canada, and the rest of the world is going to have to do something. Go after Mexico, and the rest of the world can no doubt continue the embarrassed throat-clearing that they'll have done since he came to power.

That's the spirit! Self sacrifice to help the less fortunate!

Again, that does not seem very likely. Trump did make the attempt. We saw what happens when it actually happened. No one in the fed actually went with him. Yes, we even had red states trying to make the case for splitting, and there is nothing happening there. This is because unless it is someplace like California where the state could be a nation on it's own, the red states are hopeless. I am not saying California would do it or even could, but that with the diversity of economics and it's ability to staff and manufacture a military they would have a chance. The only semi red state that could do something would be texass and they cannot keep their infrastructure going. And they are not even united in being red. Most of their dems would be internal terrorists who would be on the US side.

Most of our red state traitors are so hopelessly reliant on the federal funding they would immediately fall in line if they saw what they would have to endure to fund a war machine. Their taxes would go through the roof, the state would take their rights, and their land would become forfeit because that is what you would need to do to keep control and make a military. Their people would be conscripted in an immediate draft. Do you think even the most devout of trumpistas wants to actually fight the war? These are people who cannot wear a mask if asked nicely, and you think they are going to fight for their independence? That actually means working and fighting.

It is not that you could not imagine a scenario where it could happen, but the people involved are karens. You cannot fight a war with Karens. However, there will be some violent terrorism no matter what.

I agree. If you compare the BLM protests because of GF we see a countrywide effort to protest police brutality that was brought to violence by police violence. Even that violence was more an effect of shitbag trraitors like Kyle Rittenhouse who belongs being raped in prison until he dies.

However, that was far more than the trump coup could muster. What did he have? In this state a bunch of golf cart riding elderly shitbags in a closed off seniors community could not even do much in the villages. That was a huge event for Twitler. There is a huge difference in some online trolling and an actual civil war. If you are responsible for the cable, internet, and supply lines to walmart being cut off for your civil war, the people in your are are going to slit your neckbeard down to the spinal column. People drain the pumps dry due to a manufactured gas shortage, and you cannot fuel your camo ford f150 to fight the american military when the pumps are dead.

You are correct, for all the horrible things that happened at congress life went on for the rest of us. The only thing I disagree with is it should be more like 99.9999 percent of the people are not going to be bothered fighting, and the rest of them will be taken out by drones in their bunkers. Really, if they want to cosplay a rebellion by drinking some beers in their gunbunker and never doing anything to seize actual land then who the fuck cares. If you are on your property in your trump revolution bunker and no one knows about it then did you really make your own country?

I would? I didn’t know that.

one reason no splinter group of ragtag nuts is going to form their own country is the sheer size & population of the US. I don't care how well armed or trained or supplied they are they would only be a tiny fraction of the total population - who just don't hate the US enough to start from scratch. People might cheer on the rabble rousers/protesters/rioters from the comfort oftheir living room but do they want their homes & businesses destroyed? I'm guessing they don't.

No seriously. Bye. Best of luck. Good luck feeding yourselves.

Why would they start from scratch? It's not like they hate the US dollar, or cable tv, or McDonalds, they just want an area where they can ignore the laws they don't like and harass whatever minorities offend them. Like those mythical "no-go" Sharia law zones in the UK, except real and Christiany.

Indeed, because you lack self-awareness.

I think you think you know me, you don’t.

Everyone that's been here for years knows what sort of person you think you are, and also the sort of person you actually are based on years of reading your actual posts.

Then you should know that I wouldn’t support those type of laws.

So why do you want to hand even more power to state governments that use those types of laws?