So what is your plan if the shit hits the fan

We avoided civil war this last winter by what seemed to be a fairly narrow margin.

And many of the things that would keep it from happening again are being willfully dismantled.

Not the least of which is the actual removal of democracy in our electoral process for President, transferring the power to state legislatures. This is clearly anti-democratic, and also quite perfectly constitutional.

So we are going to have to get by stress tests in the next few elections, and failing any of those could be extremely problematic.

Have you considered what you are going to do if that goes bad?

Two chicks at the same time.

That makes me wonder what you are going to do if you ever get a million dollars.

Oh, wait, same answer, right?

Pay off my debts and use the last bit of money to order something from the McDonald's Value Menu.

I'd like to know why transferring power (back) to the states is anti-democratic, we are meant to be a Republic after all.

When you overturn the will of the electorate it is by definition anti-democratic.

So transferring power back to the states, which represents We the people as designed in the constitution, somehow overturns the will of the people? Is the will of the people only what Democrats say it is?

No, that is most definitely not the case. You can lie about that all you want, but it doesn't make it true. We the people is the people of the United States, and that was ruled on by the very first supreme court in 1793 and hasn't been challenged since.

When politicians overturn the will of the electorate, that's authoritarianism.

What they are saying is your vote doesn't count, we will decide for you.

There are several states now, all run by Republicans, that have determined that you can't be trusted with your vote for the executive.

What are some examples of transferring power "back" to the states that you feel are justified? Are there any you feel are unjustified? I just want to make sure I understand where you are coming from with your statement.

No you don’t, you want to use this as some kind of gotcha.

Trying to understand your reasoning is not a "gotcha," it's part of engaging in a discussion. Otherwise we are left to assume your reasoning, which will result in a discussion that goes in circles.

immigrate to Canada illegally.

The big one I think is justified is repealing the 17th Amendment and returning the selection of Senators to the legislatures of the States. Other than that, there's not much I would change.

I'd say 1861-1865 counts as a pretty big challenge, myself.

Like I’d post it publicly.

I go back to my pudunk Mayberry town in SC. Nothing’s going to happen there. I almost did it last year. I’m glad I didn’t.

Dude, you've been in the trap for years. The cheese has evolved into a new lifeform. We don't need to "get" you. Your fucking legs are broken.

You revealed who you are freely, we didn't even need the damn cheese, as it turns out. At least we used American cheese and not anything edible.

Depends on the shit. I mean, you can't have the same plan for every kind of shit.

Civil War - there's probably no where safe
Aliens - hide
Yellowstone blows or asteroid impact- pack up and move closer to the equator
Zombies - pack up and move to an island

If you don't have a plan B for every possible scenario, you're screwed.

Why don't you use his attempt at a "gotcha" as an opportunity to show us who you are and what you think - I mean, if you aren't accusing us of trying to "gotcha", you're accusing us of not knowing who you are and what you think.

I might move to Japan
Help myself, if I can
to some fine pan
fried salmon

Sorry, thread title sounded like we were workshopping lyrics.

The ketchup?

Owning a large boat covers a lot of possibilities.

See if Iceland, Australia, or Switzerland would take me.

Probably stay right here?

Because I know how this bullshit goes, the second I say something that contradicts something I said before, one of the assholes (usually @Bailey ) will pull up a quote from years ago and start asking me questions about it, then they call me a hypocrite and then say, "see, see" .I know how this game goes. I will say that @Lanzman is right though, the biggest one is the 17th amendment.

Use your words, dick head.

This is why I don't answer questions because this is how it always ends. You guys don't really want to discuss anything, you just want to fling shit.

Start my own sex cult, load up on guns, and grow potatoes, not in that particular order.

Doesn't stop you inviting debate:

You just get pissy when forced to defend your positions.

If we fling shit at you, it's because we've gotten tired of actually expecting you to debate, and the shit at least covers up the stench.

Because I give people the credit that their arguments are made in good faith, and therefore try to understand their logic. When it's contradictory that either suggests a change in views in which case it's worth discussing why they changed, or it suggests arguing in bad faith, which means it deserves to be called out.