Fucking Finally...Breyer

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by The Original Faceman, Jan 26, 2022.

  1. Bailey

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    Weird, @Federal Farmer thinks it's an unsolvable mystery why black people in America have worse outcomes on a bunch of metrics, yet can immediately attach a racism label to a situation like this.

    Weird.
     
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  2. Paladin

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    Abortion isn't a religious issue for me. I'm an atheist. :shrug:
     
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    Good! Then please explain why you thin a counservative SupremeCourt is preferable.
     
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    Maaahhh guuuuuuuunnnzzz!!! :poodle:
     
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    Then perhaps being pro-abortion should be a matter of religious conviction, as it is for me. :)
     
  6. Paladin

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    I'm libertarian, and against the statist agenda of the left. On the social issues where I agree with the left, the left has already won.
     
  7. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Definitely. That's an area where I have direct experience with the state infringing in my rights.
     
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    The left isnt statist. Thats the political parties (both) wresting control from the people. You are playing into their hands. But, the more you talk, especially about economics, im beginning to think you know that and are just here spreading the same propaganda.
     
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    Judaism and Catholicism have much stronger intellectual and educational traditions in the U.S. compared to Protestantism (especially the evangelical variety).
     
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  10. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Harvard was founded by John Harvard, a Puritan preacher. Yale and Dartmouth were founded by Congregationalists for the express purpose of training Clergy. William Tennnet founded the College of New Jersey as a seminary. You may know it by its current name. Princeton.

    Northern Baptists (Puritan tradition), Presbyterians, and Congregationalists have an extremely rich history of intellectualism and scholarship dating back to the early colonial era. It's the Southern knuckleheads that detracted from that for the first 100 years after the split.

    The classic creeds and confessions on which these universities, and their scholarship, are based is an appeal to faith based on reason. The Southern tradition is an appeal to faith based on emotion. That's a historical problem with the SBC.

    If you think of the "fire and brimstone" types, they're almost all Southern. Whereas, the greatest theological mind North America has ever produced, Jonathan Edwards, never once raised his voice. When preaching, arguably, the most important sermon in North America, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, first hand accounts tell us that Jonathan Edwards never once raised his voice and he fixed his gaze on the bell rope in the narthex.
     
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  11. Diacanu

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    Oh, holy shit, he was all about guilt, shame, and fire and brimstone. :lol:

    Frothing madness.
     
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    I was referring to the style of preaching, not the content of the message. Edwards only raised his voice loud enough to be heard in an era before microphones and sound equipment.

    His message, along with Whitefield and Wesley started the First Great Awakening. A revival movement that forever changed Protestantism in Britain and her, then, 13 colonies.
     
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    I mean, yeah, in a detached historical perspective, he did that.
    Whether that's a good thing is arguable.

    As for tone, I could read Charles Manson rant transcripts in a Steven Wright deadpan, but it's still wacky shit.
     
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    To be fair I think his bloody ass was mostly the cancer.
     
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    I went and looked up the stats on educational attainment by religion and found several things:

    1) @Elwood is right; my Catholic vs. Jewish vs. Protestant breakdown is overly broad and it's the southern branches of Protestantism that have most overwhelmingly rejected learning and intellectualism.

    2) The most educated religious group on the U.S. is Hindus. This possibility wouldn't have occurred to me, but it makes sense ... most Hindus in the U.S. are probably Indians who came on H1B visas or their kids.

    3) Unitarian Universalists and Jewish people are highly educated. No surprise there, Unitarian Universalism being highly based around learning about different faiths and Judaism having an extremely strong tradition of questioning and intellectual rigor.

    4) Mainline Protestants are high, and Catholics are actually a lot lower than I expected, given how many very strong Catholic schools there are. (Although I know a whole lot of non-Catholics who went to Catholic schools. Anecdotally, one reason might be that Catholic schools are welcoming to non-Catholics and non-Christians, while right-wing Protestant schools often aren't even welcoming to Catholics, let alone non-Christians.)

    5) Holy shit, 19% of Jehovah's Witnesses never even made it out of high school.

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    Did you notice that the lowest ranked group on that chart is from Cleveland, TN? That’s in McMinn county, which made the news for banning Maus.
     
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    So, assuming Biden manages to get his nominee appointed, what do we think the odds are of Trump trying to have them removed (I have no idea if there's any mechanism to do so, but Trump has a habit of inventing them if the rules don't say he can't) if he wins in 2024? After all, he's said the 2020 election was illegitimate, which means Biden wasn't actually POTUS, so he has no power to appoint a judge.

    There are already those among his supporters pre-emptively making this argument.

    https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post...-new-scotus-justice-because-hes-illegitimate/
     
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    I believe it's possible to impeach a supreme Court justice, but I think the far more likely outcome is for the Trump Administration 2.0 to just ignore rulings that don't go their way and to encourage others to do the same by claiming the court is illegitimate. It's not like the supreme court has any way of enforcing it's decisions on it's own. :async:
     
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    Sorry, we can't appoint a Justice in the lead up to a world war.
     
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    You see, she was nominated within 48 months of a presidential election. That's definitely too close.
     
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    What?
     
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    made me look. That video is pathetic. Not because of the ladies speaking in it.
     
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    My thoughts exactly.
     
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    Planck's Constant rules out being able to measure your thoughts exactly, or even at all.
     
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    Explain.
     
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    Don't worry. The Heisenberg compensators and a reverse verteron pulse from the main deflector dish should clear up any issues.
     
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