Roe v. Wade

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  1. Bailey

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    If you can clearly see it then please direct me to the part of the video where she pretends to be handcuffed. Is it when she shows that her hands aren't restrained by putting her fist in the air?
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  2. Bailey

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    Is it the mere fact she had her hands behind her back for the most part? A common and sensible approach when being detained by police?
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    No it's the part where she's literally pretending to be handcuffed. Maybe you've never witnessed someone being handcuffed, I highly doubt that but I'll play along for now. You see little Billy when someone is bad and has to go to jail they are placed in handcuffs. Sometimes people are handcuffed with their hands in front of them, but often times that makes it easier for the bad guy to get away. If a police officer wants to make it harder for the bad guy to get away, they place the bad guy's hands behind their back. In this video, Billy, AOC is placing her hands behind her back as if she were a bad guy being arrested. She's doing this to make people think she was arrested because you see Billy, some people think the cops are mean and they are the bad guys.Those people think AOC is a good guy, but in fact, she's being dishonest. I think someone else is being dishonest too Billy. Is there something you want to tell us? It's okay, I'm not going to punish you and you won't be in trouble, but you need to tell the truth. You didn't watch the whole video, did you? Because if you had, you would know that some people thought that AOC was being arrested. Those people are called liberals and liberals often use dishonest tactics to try and get their way or to sell a narrative. AOC is also a liberal and is known for her dishonesty as well.
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  4. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    "Arrested" means different things depending on the context. Was she criminally charged and cited? Looks like. Was she free to stay in front of the Supreme Court and continue to protest? Not from the video that you showed. And so that fits a common-sense and also one legal definition of being arrested.

    Indeed, the Capitol Police's website says it arrested 17 lawmakers and others, though it didn't specify that AOC was one of them:

    https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/35-people-arrested-blocking-traffic
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  5. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    It's always projection.
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  6. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    So it was:

    Also I'm unclear, was the claim that she was faking being in handcuffs or faking being arrested?

    Aka, to be 100% clear, are you asserting that she was not in fact arrested?
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    Soooo, more gaslighting. :techman:
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  8. Bailey

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    At this point I have to assume you don't know what that word means.

    You see a video of her faking being arrested and/or handcuffed.

    We see a video of her being arrested and making a point to clearly not resist arrest.

    If you think the first is the correct interpretation, so clear that we must actually be seeing the same but lying about it, then make the case. Show us up as the liars we apparently are.
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  9. Bailey

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    Here's the definition by the way:


    You're the one here doing that, asserting that the evidence we see doesn't actually exist, and is so clear that we must be lying about it.
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    In what little fairness I feel like sharing on this point, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the reason why AOC had her hands behind her back was to act as though she was cuffed, as opposed to any number of other reasons.

    However, that she from the video itself clearly shows within less than a minute that she is not handcuffed in full view of the public shows to anyone with a working brain that even if she had such an impulse, she abandoned it within that time frame.
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  11. Bailey

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    Exactly, which is why I'm giving FF faith beyond his anti-left bias that he saw something in the video to make him think this is the case.
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  12. Steal Your Face

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    You are lying about it and you like to play these games when caught in the lie.
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  13. Bailey

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    What do you think I am lying about?

    I honestly believe the video doesn't prove or even give strong evidence that there was an attempt to fake handcuffing and/or arrest.

    I do honestly believe that she was arrested, given the statements by US police that they arrested members of Congress, so am very confident in believing you are wrong to assert that was faked. (There is a slight space for doubt there, as Raoul pointed out it's possible that AOC wasn't one of the members of Congress they listed, but seems unlikely)
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    It is poor form to accuse someone of lying to you when it's just as likely (or even more in this case) that they have an honest disagreement with you.

    Anyway, probably the last thing I'll say on this part of the topic because I've got other things to do:

    There are people who walk with their hands behind them normally. That doesn't mean that they are pretending to be handcuffed.

    We don't know what happened before the video. It could be that the Capitol Police officer asked her to put her arms behind her back but chose not to cuff her because she was cooperative enough.

    Even subscribing to the notion that AOC was play-acting like she was handcuffed, given that she showed that she was not within less than a minute, who cares?

    If the notion was that she was trying to act like she was arrested when she wasn't, you are wrong. She was in fact arrested. The Secret Service all but said so.

    If you cared at all about the Constitution rather than weak-ass attempts to troll/own libs, you might want to spend some time lamenting that in 2022, the government would be arresting people who were peacefully protesting.
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    If the videos he watches are stupid bullshit, then he is capable of falling for stupid bullshit, therefore is likely stupid himself, and he can't be stupid, so reality has to bend to accommodate his sense of self, so you have to be lying.

    There's an easier way out of this, FF.
    The videos you post are stupid bullshit, you're falling for stupid bullshit, but that just makes you human, and you can own up to it, and forgive yourself.
    See how easy?
    And reality doesn't have to contort, and you don't come off as a loon.
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    Unless he's a troll with no life. :clyde:
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  18. Diacanu

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    Jesus, do you suppose he watches that nasty alt-right content all fucking day long?

    (As Captain Kirk in "Dagger Of The Mind")
    Can you imagine it? A mind, emptied by that thing?
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    It must be because the video is stupid bullshit and not that AOC is stupid and is preforming a stupid political stunt. You are as wise as master Yoda.
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    Pretty much, yeah.

    Telling that you think one has to be brilliant to sniff bullshit.
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    AOC Arrested.jpg
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    No, they suggest they were arrested.

    Unless you are still asserting that the only reason for putting hands behind backs is to pretend to be handcuffed.
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    Then why is she getting special treatment then because I'm a white male and I've been told I have white privilege and every time I've been arrested I was handcuffed even if I wasn't causing any trouble while being arrested.
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    How many times?
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  26. Steal Your Face

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    Why does it matter?
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    I've never been handcuffed so I was wondering how someone manages to have it happen to them multiple times.
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    No, you're attempting to change the subject.
  29. Diacanu

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    Drunky McSwservn'crash must've squashed a lot of little old ladies for the cops to lock his white ass up.
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    I'm just curious about why someone like you has been arrested multiple times.
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