Looks like it's gaining steam. https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-4-back-on-track-with-pine-saldana-urban-cho-quinto-and-pegg/
Well, by 2023, it will have been 6 years since Beyond. That's enough time that Pine Kirk should be an admiral by now. I want TMP uniforms. I want them to mention having beaten V'Ger offscreen.
Hmmm. It would be interesting if ST4 began with the conclusion of TMP (redone/re-inagined with the current cast) and the plot then involves a transformed/transcendent Decker.
I want the Admiral Pike TMP inspired uniforms. I also want a better looking Enterprise. I wouldn’t mind TMP inspired uniforms as long as they have division colors and no life monitors.
Chris Pine Thinks Star Trek Films Shouldn’t Chase Marvel-Size Audiences Chris Pine says that Star Trek movies should be made for people that love Star Trek and not try to chase billion-dollar Marvel-size audiences. https://deadline.com/2022/04/chris-pine-barry-linen-poolman-star-trek-1234989517/
He may be right. Star Trek kinda stops being Star Trek when they're trying to make it a blockbuster. Would people go see a Star Trek film that had a plot with no world-destroying weapons or apocalyptic space battles or revenge-driven renegades? Dare I say: a character-driven Star Trek, with a genuine sci-fi plot and a message? I'd like to see it, but I'm not sure the business model supports it.
The problem with TWOK is that it was so successful that TWOK became the template for a lot of what followed. But that was space opera, not Star Trek.
You’re right, it not unheard of and First Contact was the last film to appeal to general audiences until Star Trek 09. It can be done, but you have to build up to it, Paramount wants the billion dollar blockbuster now and that’s not how it works. Iron Man didn’t make a billion dollars, it took several movies to get there. Now they’ve waited too long and expected way too much from the Kelvinverse. They basically have to start over now. Star Trek is, always was and always will for a niche audience. They need to start with a lower budget, which will be hard now that pretty much every cast member has a big name now, and they need to expect to make anywhere between 500 million at the low end and 800 million at the high end. Now the question is do they go forward with Pine and try to continue the Kelvinverse and make a movie that does appeal to general audiences? That’s tricky, the collective memory of those movies is fading. Do they introduce a whole new cast of characters? That’s risky as fuck, so probably not. Do the push the Kelvinverse forward and cast TNG? Possibly, it could work, you have to reintroduce Picard and crew, general audiences are more familiar with Kirk and Spock. A DS9 movie? I wish, but I’m afraid that’s never going to happen, it should have been done long ago. Do they put Discovery on the big screen? Well we don’t the numbers for Discovery, but I suspect it’s old fans that’s keeping these shows going and if they wanted Discovery on the big screen, I think we would have heard something about it by now. Looks to me that they have two options, put the movies to bed for now or go forward with Pine and the Kelvinverse and see if they can recapture the glory days.
Paramount has always been short sighted. Ex husband used to work for a company that mass produced VHS and DVDs for all the studios. When the company needed to sell, all other studios signed a contact with the new company - except Paramount. They are severely mismanaged. Still, that doesn’t distract me from enjoying the movies they put out.
They just lost him to Fantastic Four. https://www.darkhorizons.com/star-trek-4-loses-director-matt-shakman/
I’m confused. Are we talking about MCU phase 4, MCU phase 5 or Star Trek 4? What the hell is going on?
All right, if they're never gonna do the 4th movie, here's how I'd wrap up the JJ-verse. Fold it in to current continuity. Have the JJ-verse Enterprise go back through the Narada blackhole, and it pops them out in SNW. Then you do a big 2 part crossover with the JJ-Prise and DISCO-prise. Then, to preserve history, you pull a Discovery, and have the JJ-prise crew transwarp beam to the delta quadrant, and self destruct the JJ-prise behind them. Then, you have Burnham in the future find their descendants, and the descendants have the log records of what became of their ancestors. Bam, there you go.
I'd write a two page pamphlet book where Q-Jr prunes "Coda". That's page 1. Page 2 just says "This is totally, totally, totally canon. -Gene Roddenberry's Ghost".
we tried character driven and called it Discovery. many of y'all didn't like the characters and the "new worlds" they represented.
is this jsut before future disco flies through the guardian to reassert itself in history? because I really hate the future setting and the cowardice of taking them out of continuity. it may as well be Andromeda now
