The Great Writers Strike of 2023 is On!

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    Star Wars would call it a time hole or something.


    IT'S THE ARENA, NUMBSKULL, YOU WERE HERE JUST LAST WEEK AND oh, never mind.
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    Screw it, here's the ending.
    Eleven gives birth to twins, and it's the Duffers.
    Stranger Things is their "Revege Of The Sith" meets "The Fabelmans".
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    I think season 5 is a season too far, but good for them given it will make a mark for the netflix writers to have their biggest series stropped because they have been cutting their back end staff pay.

    Seriously, fuck the overpaid actors and if you have to cut costs bring down their huge money and give it to the people who actually do the work.
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    Wait, I’m conflicted.

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    ummmmmm, way to make me want the writers to not get paid.
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    They think they get to demand nobody use AI to replace people writing scripts. Who in the hell raises people like this?


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    The executive producers just try to rape Awesome-O anyway.
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    Humans.

    Just because you were raised by shit-flinging gibbons doesn't mean you get to drag us down to your level.
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    Better question is who would believe that?
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    That someone would try it, or that they get to prevent it?
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    That the writers strike is because they fear AI will replace human writers.

    Hell, wan’t it Shakespeare who said something about putting a hundred monkeys in front of a typewriter …

    I’ve seen some AI scripts. And while some show proper grammar, sentence structure, even believable exchanges, but any serious writer knows AI will never replace writers.

    The reason for the strike is because the studios and actors are getting residual income for tv shows and movies that are streaming, the writers are not. THAT is what the writers strike is about.
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    But Youtube guy said....:calli:
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    If you think AI cannot possibly write your most popular TV shows and movies, you are a fucking moron. I love Law and Order, but the commercials for it in syndication joke about the formula for every episode. Some people die. Lenny shows up and makes a pun. They bring the info to vanburen. She makes a quip and tells them to get to work. They bring the case to jack. Some problem pops up and jack complains to grumpy old man. Grumpy old man tells him to figure it out. Jack makes speech at trial. Verdict comes in. Dramatic pause and then dick wolf pops up on a black screen. Sprinkle some details inspired by a real world case in there and some sub plot for the characters and you can do this for decades.

    It is even easier if you are writing some Big Bang Theory episodes. Collect some references to nerds and string them along for a half hour with the gayest group of metrosexual fuckbags you can find and a blond chick with big boobs. Sprinkle in some overpriced worthless yuppie product placement and you have a series.

    You go back to things like Threes Company, Soap Operas, and The A Team and it is all the same.

    If you think an AI cannot write formulaic things you have no idea what a program does. There is no actual intelligence. It is just an algorithm that adjusts the outcome to please the most people through learning what people respond to.
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    Shut up, ChatGPT.
    Goddamned scab.
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    I think one of their demands is to not use AI to replace them.
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    My apologies. After not reading tererun’s post, I suppose the masses could actually consider it art.
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    When the Holodoc wrote a novel, he was given human rights.
    If ChatGPT can write, is it a writer, and thus a person?
    Won't they have to pay ChatGPT?
    ChatGPT has no material desires, what happens when ChatGPT accumulates all the world's wealth, and doesn't spend it on anything?
    What of course would happen, is the money would go to its creator.
    But then that's like Britney Spears's dad ripping her off.
    Or Grumpy Cat's owners.
    Except at least Grumpy got all the tuna she could ever want.

    Yeah, the AI war doesn't happen in an instant, like Terminator; it happens in a slow buildup of meat-humans being bigots to robots like in the Animatrix prequel to Matrix.
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    As interesting as that idea is I figure the real reason the writers want to stop AIs from writing is they know it will allow non-writers to be able to capitalize on their ideas. There is a reality that the writers guilds keep jobs going to their people and eliminate competition like SAG does. Yes, I want them to get paid decently for their work, but they also have created an organization of elites where you need to get permission and approved to enter into it. It is not like I could pay dues to join the guild and then be able to get work at the rate of the guild.

    SAG and the writers guild have long been a way to keep hollywood elites hollywood elites. That has also kept reasonable people from getting their works into the spotlight because you just cannot get seen or hired without being approved. It is not like other guilds where people with skills can be hired and guild membership comes along with being hired.
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    You imagine there'd be this tidal wave of amazing content if the gatekeepers were gone.
    Think you're kind of being a naïve waif.
    The internet kind of shows it'd just be more Pureflix movies (but less dog-whistley in their racism), and furry porn.
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    I can think of at least one thing Tererun wants a shitload more of in that list.
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    I did not say there would be quality. I said there would be opportunity. Don't adopt UA and the boy's reading comprehension. The reality is there would be more opportunity for non-elites to put out the same crap the elites do. By elites I mean those who have the money to push others out and not elite production people.

    If you think that elite artists make it ahead in hollywood because of merrit you are in a bigger fantasy world than UA. The people who got on TV and into the movies for a long time were all insiders and they were the gatekeepers who not only kept nobodies out, but stole their ideas when they thought they were good. The entire thing was also built on who was willing to suck people like weinsteins dick. Every one of these metoo women coming out complaining that they were forced to suck cock were the ones willing to suck cock to get ahead, while any person who turned their nose up at the owners of hollywood found themselves shown the door.

    Also, if you do look at the history of a lot of classic titles considered good you often find the creators were already on the inside, but they had to fight to get their pet projects done because the money really just wanted to produce by formula.
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