Seattle continues efforts to kill jobs...

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what's your point?

was the west settled by military force and fraudulent treaties or not?

UA has argued in the past that per Capita rates are misleading, and you should just use raw numbers.

Point of order: the treaties weren’t fraudulent. They were legitimate. They were just violated by the US government before the ink could dry.

signed in bad faith = fraud

/shrug

either way, UA is squatting on somebody else's home.

Oh here we go, Ben and Jerry's.


Feel free to prove you're not full of shit by giving up everything you own to the nearest tribe, then fucking off back to Europe.

pretty sure that the government respecting land claims, payments due, an negotiating restitution for residential schools in GOOD FAITH would be more practical than your dramatic hyperbole, but you do you.

glad to see you believe so firmly in "we stole it, it's ours".

or does your legendary integrity only apply to white folks?

(you also forget, I'm a mud blood)

correctly?

also, "aboot" is an east coast thing, I think.

the true test would be on the pronunciation of "Toronto".

No matter.. I still wanna know why/how he thinks a city can't have a centre and still be habitable? I mean, I get that the worst thing about living downtown here is people who don't live here coming here and treating it like an 80s house party?

Conquered. Just as tribes did to each other. That's not an assessment of good or evil, but recognizing reality over the romanticized myth of the "noble savage."

When were we ever considered noble?

Lebensraum...

The level of scholarship around indigenous Americans has advanced well beyond the 18/19th century idiocy of the "Noble Savage". Try to keep up.

If that were true, I wouldn't have to hear about "stolen land."

Different issues.

so long as we're clear that you're okay with genocide...

Nope. Try again. You'll get it, big guy.

Oh no, you had to hear about something. What an injustice.

You're spouting the same shite storm was 20 years ago.

izzat because there aren't gas chambers or trains running on time?

The fuck do I care what he said?

You had people who raped, pillaged, waged war and kept slaves, who were then conquered by other people who were slightly better at it. The end.

You people who bang the "whitewashed history" drum sure have no problem with revisionism when it suits you.

speaking of whitewashing...

care to comment on the past 150 years, or are you gonna just stick to before the glorious conquest of the "savages" as you've referred to them already?

See, you're editorialzing again. I didn't glorify or romanticize anything.

As for the last 150 years, that is too broad to answer.

bullshit, I listed specific topics, all post 1870s issues.

none of which were about the actual settler conquest either... but rather actions that have taken place since the peace treaties.

Where have you done that? In this thread?

When Americans talk about "Stolen Land".

https://13wham.com/news/nation-worl...n-mount-rushmore-vermont-abenaki-don-stevens#

Because we're "better at it," that's all that matters?

Ooooh, look at the hot takes on @Uncle Albert!
What a contrarian rebel!
I've never heard that shit before around the thanksgiving table since I was four.

Ah yes, might means right, an argument perfectly compatible with also arguing that property rights are inviolable.

Like as far as I can tell this little diversion has gone like this.

FF/UA: property rights are inviolable and it's laughable to suggest otherwise

Others: actually even you have large examples of where you think the concept of ownership just involves the government just declaring the rights are null no takes backsies.

UA: indeed, I'll also argue the same while pretending it somehow discredits your point.

https://www.thestranger.com/city/20...again-that-seattle-and-portland-are-not-dying