Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tuckerfan, Mar 26, 2023.

  1. Nyx

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    You sound like every white conservative watching a black boy get beaten up by the police.
    "He must have done something."

    Congratulations for that, I guess.
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    I don't think you're supposed to call a black person "boy," you fucking racist :async:
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    I wonder why they have to round up so many men......

    https://x.com/NoaMagid/status/1731407801090453798?s=20

    ^ Here's a video of a Jewish woman and man being kidnapped. Doesn't seem to be any Hamas terrorists uniformed up in that video, lots of people in civilian clothes participating in said kidnapping. Hmmmm

    Also they are stripped because the IDF has to ensure none of them are wearing suicide vests
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  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Anything credible on this, in terms of a source?

    Or just another empty accusation?
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    Yesterday @Amaris was over here posting about 6000+ children dying and then a couple of hours later was over on TBBS (before she got banned for her sig) lamenting the 7000+ children that were dead

    A lot can happen in a couple of hours I guess :shrug:
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  10. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I don't know what the boy did, right or wrong. There's no context.

    I do know that the Israeli soldier is assaulted by the onlookers. That's on tape.

    Hard to believe there's a single living person in that video after the assault on the soldier - Nazis generally don't take to being beaten.

    He just whipped out his rifle and gunned them all down for attacking him, right?

    No?

    Why not.

    Oh, right - you aren't a tad bit credible.
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  11. Nyx

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    I was basing it off of week old data. The current tally is over 7,000 because the genocide hasn't stopped.
    Interesting that you have a problem with that, and seemingly not the thousands of dead children. This is why I don't take you seriously, and see you as a debate bro taking up oxygen in the room. Same as @Demiurge and @14thDoctor. None of you give a shit, this is fun for you.
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  12. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    And not a single comment on institutes of higher learning refusing to hold their students to protect Jews from calls to genocide them.

    Not happening ten thousand miles away. Happening in the US, right now.

    Anti-Zionism sure seems to be a fast track to antisemitism.
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  13. Nyx

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    You're doing the other meme.
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    Yes only people who talk about dying children in every single post, like you, are the ones that actually care about them

    The reason I brought it up is because I don't believe you to be a reliable source on anything at all when it comes to this conflict, you're too emotionally invested and really seem to like and use data that's provided by Hamas
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    Whoever took this photograph and thought it would be fun to post online is being disrespectful as hell to the shirtless folk. But that doesn't make it genocide or a hate crime or ethnic cleansing, it's just kind of a dick move. And reposting it to condemn it doesn't make it any better.
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    I've seen a lot of things lately along the lines of "the IDF dropped another bomb and killed a billion people just now, all the bodies are still buried under the rubble." But if they're still under the rubble, how did Hamas count and identify them so quickly?

    Hamas isn't especially concerned with the truth, and no one should take anything they say at face value.
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    So just to be clear, what exactly is the IDF supposed to do with people they believe to be Hamas? Evidently arresting them is more than just inappropriate, it's an abomination! The white person living on Osage tribal lands who hates colonizers told us so!
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    Looks like his third last tweet was him suggesting Israeli rape victims were lying about being sexually assaulted by Hamas terrorists. I humbly suggest that perhaps Hamas is lying about him being killed by a bomb. :bergman:
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  20. Nyx

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    I suggest you go ask him.
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    An article from 2018 about Israel's supreme court rejecting a challenge from human rights groups about IDF soldiers being held responsible for shooting civilians.

    Israeli Supreme Court rejects challenge to open-fire rules

    Source: https://apnews.com/article/da582f11ad4443ddbf44ea6f2fc72c3a
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    "Unarmed" "civilians"

    When did Hamas start wearing uniforms and openly displaying their weapons? :chris:
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  23. Thoughts and Prayers

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    Forcibly moving a specific people out of an area, permanently, is not genocide no matter who deems it so. It is ethnic cleansing, however. Remains to be seen if that will happen in Gaza.

    Hamas needs to be wiped out, with extreme prejudice, for its actions in October. But the Israeli government needs to make peace with the Palestinians and concede enough to make peace worthwhile...or this conflict will go on until there IS genocide, on one side or the other. Neither side is going away. Something has to give; neither side is getting the 'river to the sea.'

    Neither side deserves it, honestly.
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  24. Nyx

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    It is a genocide, and history will see it as a genocide in time.

    https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

    That was in October. Thousands more have died since then, many of them children. They have been moved from one place to another, and bombed in every place they have moved, and just like the Trail of Tears, it will be seen as the genocide it is, despite what some might think.
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    That place gets more and more ridiculous every year.
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  26. Nyx

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    A reminder that the pearl clutching from US politicians about antisemitism is wholly false. Israel is a US asset. It does not care about the people living in Israel, it does not care about the Palestinians, and it sure as shit doesn't care how many people die.
    Israel is a US representative in the middle east. Zionism is about power and control, not faith.



    The AIPAC donor list
    https://www.opensecrets.org/politic...airs-cmte/C00797670/candidate-recipients/2022

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  27. Thoughts and Prayers

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    Sorry, I'd still rather have Israel controlling Palestine than a Muslim theocracy or oligarchy. If you think some Palestinian secular Utopia would replace israel, you're just plain wrong. That doesn't justify Israeli war crimes, but it also doesn't justify blanket support of Palestinian independence. From The River To The Sea would be a human rights disaster.
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    That isn't your choice to make. It isn't Israel's choice to make. That's the problem. Preferring the colonizer over the colonized because the colonizer better fits your idea of civilization is not a valid reason to oppress an entire group of people.
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    A decade or so ago I’m pretty sure I made a thread ‘Is Pakistan a failed state’ the basis of which by every demographic/economical metric Indian Muslims were doing better than Pakistanis…

    Modi might have fucked that up but I honestly doubt it.
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    Of course it isn't my choice to make. Or yours. But it sure as hell is Israel's, because they currently control the land!

    And you know what, if a free Palestine makes the choice to be a Muslim theocracy or whatever, I would rather Israel be in control and I stand by that opinion. Talk about oppression, for Christ's sake. What the hell do you think would happen? You think a free Palestine would be any kinder to the Jews than Israel is to the Palestinians? It would just be trading one set of oppressors for another, with the bonus of a free Palestine oppressing its own citizens. No thanks.
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