Should the UK extradite Bin Laden to the US?

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  1. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

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    Only in this world of ours, could the capture and victory over bin Laden cause such strife.

    I've lost all my faith in humanity. Seriously.
  2. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    That's my thoughts as well. Aren't the forces in Afghanistan acting under NATO's authority with a US Commander? It'd simply be a procedural matter of transferring a prisoner from one unit to the other.
  3. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    Perhaps a better plan would be to require him to be tried by the International Criminal Court. The question is whether there is a mechanism for Afghanistan, the country, under the Taliban, with whom he was most closely associated, to request that the ICC assume jurisdiction. My understanding is that the ICC does not assume jurisdiction unless the country of a suspect's citizenship is unwilling or incapable of putting him on trial.

    It would appear that the International Court of Justice would not have jursdiction, since neither Bin Laden nor his forces represents a state.

    However, these are my first thoughts on this matter and do not reflect much analysis.
  4. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Or, we could try him in a military tribunal and execute him. I'd rather make him a martyr than a bargaining chip for hijackers/pirates.
  5. mustang

    mustang Fresh Meat

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    SOLUTION>

    Just put him in jail in general population. Should last say 5 minutes. :)
  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Finders keepers.

    If the U.S. couldn't do the job in nearly six years, whoever find him should get dibs on what to do with him.

    Besides, haven't you guys been claiming he's dead? Or was there a new memo?
  7. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    And thus Gitmo was born :soma:
  8. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Evidentally someone needs to explain to the writer what 'hypothetical' means.

    And yes, at this point I think it's a pretty good bet he's dead.

    However, I was curious to see people's outlook on the UK's treaty commitments when it abrogated it's foreign policy responsibility on some matters to the EU. Not being able to turn over the biggest villain in the new millennium to your closest ally who he committed mass murder against is really an unprecedented situation. It takes holier than thou to a completely new level.

    Of course, most people seem to think it wouldn't happen that way because the Brits would finagle it so technically they didn't have to take responsibility on, which is interesting in of itself.
  9. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    May be a bit of a tangent, but I'm interested to hear more about this OBL is dead theory. Is there a strong basis for it other than the lack of any recent videos?
  10. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    Wasn't he on dialysis? It's probably hard to find a kidney clinic in a cave and unless Dr. McCoy and his pills makes a house call, he ain't growing a new one.
  11. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yeah, I've heard that one, but that should have killed him no later than the end of 2002. Weren't we seeing videos after that time that referenced contemporaneous events?
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  12. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    In Sept 2006 it was reported by a french newspaper that Saudi officials were convinced that Bin Laden was dead. Saudi's said it was speculation, but they were certain that he had contracted a water-born disease such as typhoid that was often fatal and always serious. But they couldn't confirm if he was dead.

    There isn't any hard evidence that he's dead at this point in time. But his continued lack of presence seems significant in of itself.

    AQ denies it, but then they've initially denied almost every instance of one of their senior leaders being killed.
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  13. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    :necro:

    Stumbled on this thread and found the discussion/predictions interesting considering what we now know.
  14. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Dan got it right. And NOT involving the Pakistanis was the key to the mission success. They got all butt-hurt, but seriously.....would ANY Commander-In-Chief trust the Pakistanis to not tip off Bin Laden? :thinking:

    And the proof was evident when Osama turned out to be LIVING among a whole neighborhood of military people.

    I can picture them swearing they had no idea what was going on in their local neighborhood fenced and fortified compound, as they wipe off the barbecue sauce from their latest cookout at Osama's back yard.

    If the raid had occurred on a Saturday afternoon his corpse would be wearing a "KISS THE COOK" apron.
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