Gestapo on the go in Maryland!

I view this as darwinism in action. The stupid ones will, hopefully, die off before they can breed.

Guess I'm lucky. Never had that shit. Just the chicken pox when I was five. Since my little body learned how to fight some germs, though, it doesn't misidentify food proteins so I'm allergy free. There are some advantages. I don't run out for a flu shot every year either.

WTF? I can't believe there are parents that refuse to vaccinate their kids. If you don't care about your own kids, at least consider the kids who can catch something from your sick kid. School lost the records? How conveeeenient that you lost your copy too, Mom!
In Georgia your kid can't be registered for school PERIOD without minimum required vaccinations. Then your ass will be arreseted and your kids put in a foster home (or whatever) because you are an unfit parent.

The reason America isn't a cesspool of sickness is BECAUSE we have the means to vaccinate our kids! So, if the state has to treat you like an Ellis Island immigrant and force you to get your kid vaccinated, boo hoo.....or else keep them away from my kids, and put them in a private school.

Your luck will most likely run out at some point.

I had chicken pox when I was five. I'm 42. Never had a shingle I can recall. Proper nutrition and vigilant hand washing and having hand sanitizer handy will pretty much keep you free of the flu unless you're unlucky enough to have someone sneeze directly in your face. I had all the proper measles, mumps, pertussis, polio and smallpox vaccinations, fun stuff for all the children who are old enough to remember Nixon. Have managed to stay alive without chicken pox, meningitis, influenza, and hepatitis vaccines.

Of the ass?

You wouldn't have. Give it another 20 years and see if you can still boast the same.
Seriously.

When daughter was born, we were advised not to have her vaccinated against whooping cough, on very good medical grounds.
However, an awful lot of people who didn't share those grounds had listened to anti-vaccine hysteria and failed to get their children immunised.
Which meant that herd immunity had disappeared.
When she was 13 months old, there was an epidemic of whooping cough. I took daughter to the doctor to ask if there was anything I could do to help her, to be told that the medical advice had changed, and there was now no reason she shouldn't be vaccinated.
I had it done the same day.
I spent the longest week of my life checking her for symptoms of allergic reaction. None of which would have been necessary if others weren't so fucking thick.

You want to send your kids to state school? Take the jabs, unless you can prove egg allergy/epilepsy that justifies avoiding it. Otherwise STFU.

Oh, and the whole MMR/autism crap? Faulty methodology: it just so happens that the diagnosis of autism isn't viable before the age where the MMR jab is given. And diagnosis of autism has massively improved.

Anyone know the stats for how many kids suffer from side effects of all these shots?

I mean, how many health problems in the majority these days are caused by these things and we just don't know it yet.

Oh crap.....I just realized, it's Maryland.
Yep....Reverends Sharpton and Jackson should have this blown all the hell out of proportion by now.

No, but you were making the misapprehension that since you haven't suffered from shingles at least 20 and more likely 25 years before you possibly could your experience was valid. It isn't.

I had my first flareup of shingles at 17. I've had two full flareups since then in stressful periods of my life. I have spot outbreaks about once a year.

Define "side effects". Most kids have a minor reaction of some type to vaccination as their immune system adjusts. As for serious side effects, the vast majority of those are due to previously undiagnosed allergies to thing like eggs used as the culture media for the vaccine.

All of which is better than the alternative.

Sucks for you. And I really mean that. But the fact is, it's more common in people in their late 60s to 70s.
I had chickenpox at 13. And having seen what shingles did to people in the most at-risk age range, I really am not sanguine about the future...

Fuck off, twat.

I don't like the state deciding what's best for my boy, and I really don't like them physically immunizing him or doing any other medical procedures without my okay. But I also don't want him going to school with some kid who'd rather their boy be like the monkey in Outbreak rather than get a shot or two.

If you're going to school in PG county, you'd better have all your shots.

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

1 - I don't have any kids, so the discussion is theoretical.
2 - If I did have kids, they would be vaccinated, because that's the smart thing to do.
3 - #2 does not change the fact that the state has no business forcing me to vaccinate my (nonexistant) kids. My kids, my choice.

That right to choose ends where the potential for your child to contract a disease and infect others begins. If you don't want to vaccinate him, keep him the fuck home.

How well you support your arguements!

That's actually one of Mouly's better showings.

So, children of stupid parents deserve to die painful deaths in order to teach the parents a lesson?

I'd comment on your other posts, but amazing, Uncle Albert has already covered everything I would!

In many cases a parent has a right to chose not to vaccinate their child due to religious or personal beliefs. In such cases the parent signs an exemption form with the knowledge that if one case of illness is found in the school, the exempted child is excluded from school until it is all clear. There is a way to prevent the spread of these illnesses without stomping on the beliefs of others.

Sure there is. Quarantined internment camps.

Fuck their beliefs.

If I find out that my child gets meningitis or some shit because some kid wasn't vaccinated properly, it doesn't matter if "Kid Zero" gets quarantined, cause my kid already HAS the disease.

No, you either get the shots, or you stay home. I wouldn't accept any excuses, religious or otherwise.

I have five students with exemptions and the worst I deal with is Group A Beta-hemolytic Streptococcus, for which there is no vaccine only antibiotic.

Just what forced quarantine camps are for!

In theory I completely agree with you, however, since we know that many people aren't responsible enough to educate their kids I think vouchers is a better solution. I think the education budget should be 1/4 of what it is now(probably even less than that) and that parents should get a voucher that would allow them to choose schools for their kids. This would create competition and really increase our school's quality.

Bad e-fucking-nough as far as I'm concerned.

And your five children is a minute sample, so the fact that even amongst such a small group you already have some bacterial agent making the rounds serves not to endorse your position, but in fact to undermine it.

Group A Beta-hemolytic Streptococcus is normal flora in the nasopharyngeal airway. You're carrying it!!!