Marine Videotaped throwing puppy Kicked out of Corps

Guys probably glad he got kicked out....No More Iraq for him

link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/12/marine.puppy/index.html

I doubt he's glad....a less than honorable discharge really fucks you job wise.

Doesn't the structure of this article tend to make the meaning of the phrase "the actions" ambiguous?

Man, ep is gonna be pissed.


They're violating that soldiers constitutional right to throw puppies!

Throwing a puppy off a cliff is a shitty thing to do. So is firing someone over it.

I'm biased cause I love dogs. Never catch me doing something so senseless.

...must have been a cat person.

Yes.

No.

Throwing a puppy off a cliff is some fucked-up shit that a reasonable person wouldn't do.

You don't want a person like that in a position of power or responsibilty, or in a job where they're going to wind up in delicate situations.

No... I've seen cat people, he doesn't look anything like one.

I'm glad the fucker got a dishonorable discharge. Screw him. If he'd treat animals that way, he'll treat people that way. He doesn't need to be a marine. God help any woman he'll marry. He's probably the type to smack a woman around too.

Some women need smacking around..take Hillary for example


Just Kidding

His current job.

These are marines we're talking about here; they're trained to kill people and break things. If one of them kills a small animal I don't think he deserves to be fired for it.

He killed something defenceless, without provocation.

That's not a good precedent for someone who's going to be operating in an area populated by civilians.

He should have been disciplined, but kicking him out does seem a bit far.

No, I can't agree. This kind of behavior is a red flag. Any shrink will tell you that. Killing a helpless creature "for fun" isn't indicative of a person who can handle stress or respect human beings. I'm sure most marines don't kill puppies for shits and giggles.

Killing an animal is a whole lot different from killing, or even injuring, a person.

Seems to me like killing a puppy is a sure sign of mental instability.

That's the sort of thing one gets discharged for, is it not?

I don't disagree, but doing either for kicks is a red flag, don't you think?

Well, if you consider all the other people that have gotten discharged for throwing a puppy off a cliff.

This is true, did they give him some sort of evaluation?

Sure, I'd keep a close eye on the guy. Maybe discipline him. But I definitely wouldn't give him a dishonorable discharge.

So... how would you suggest he be disciplined?

And what would he have to do to get dishonourably discharged?

Throw a cat off the cliff. Or a towlie.

Not sure, but something less than firing. Maybe Anc can fill me in on how military discipline works.

Intentionally harm civilians.

What's wrong with harming civilians, ethically?

Lets say the same guy finds some random chick who lives over there, beats the shit out of her for fun and films it. Is it not obvious that it's ethically wrong to do that?

Of course it's obvious that it's ethically wrong. But why, for the sake of argument? It is because a civilian isn't a threat? Because civilians aren't prepared to defend themselves?

because they should be protecting civilians and keeping them out of harms way. They have rules about these thingsss.

From the perspective of the military I would say because they're not a threat. Of course, this is splitting hairs with me now because I don't think Iraq is a threat in the first place, and we shouldn't even be there. We definitely shouldn't be hurting innocent civilians who aren't actively fighting us.