Whew! Thank god the sharia courts got the domestic abuse cases away from those misogynistic Englishmen! Does anyone want to defend this? Does it at least bother anyone than the British legal system will now help enforce the edicts of a RELIGIOUS COURT against British citizens?
"What's all this then?" Gee...didn't see this coming. Yep - the Muslims have found the "soft underbelly" of The Beast they call The West/Great Satan. Better their backyard than mine, I suppose. I'm guessing it will be a while before this happens here in The South.
What the fuck has happened to that place?? Are there no red blooded Englishmen left? The birthplace of lots of legal systems just reverted to 4000BC.
Give them an inch, they'll take a mile. What part of "it's a religious mandate to spread Islam worldwide" do we not understand?
But then all that will be left behind are leftist pacifist bleeding heart socialists wearing rose colored glasses when the ship goes down! Hell of a way to run a railroad....
Judging by the thread so far, I doubt he considers it worth it. Not like you guys haven't already formed your opinions on this already, is it? For anyone interested, though, this does not allow Sharia to supercede any British law. All it does is allow Muslims who seek arbitration in civil cases to choose to do so under Sharia and make the results of that civil arbitration legally binding unless doing so infringes legal rights under UK law. The exact same system is in place for Jewish Beth Din laws. In America it's Judge Judy, and frankly that woman scares me more than Paladin's cold-sweat "teh Mooslims are a comin'!!!" hysteria. You may now commence with ridicule, neg-reps, whatever the fuck gets you off - who knows, maybe even some reasonable debate? Whatever. I'm off to bed.
Holy shit, seriously, there must be some rule where you aren't going to be a part of this unless you voluntarily sign that you will follow the ruling of Sharia Law? I don't see how they can enforce this on any ol' Englishman. If signing into Sharia law is an agreed upon contract, then I can see where this can be "enforceable". I'd love to see how they handle the beheading laws. :flow2:
Do the parents of a child get to decide if their child is to be bound by the Sharia court? Or does the kid get to opt-out? Or are minors forbidden from being bound by the Sharia courts because it's too easy for them to be coerced into it?
civil cases such as domestic violence? That will end well for the women I'm sure. But it's only "civil cases" - nothing to worry about.
Judge Judy and Beth Din laws ought to be gotten rid of as well. One system for everyone is the ONLY way to ensure fair treatment of all. Capitulation to any religious "judicial" system in any way, whether it be Sharia or Jew or Hare Krishna, is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard of.
It's opt-in i would guess as it can not be above UK law. So it can not use the hadith (punishment rules), just the civil stuff like voiding marriage contracts, dealing with inheritance and financial transactions. No cutting off heads or hands as that is really from Wahhabism (it's the conservative reformist form of Islam that is popular in Saudi Arabia, btw Bin Laden was one of them) Hope that helps and no i don't like it. ----------------------------- Oh and when i clicked the foxnews link it had this in it. Cheeky little fuckers.
Beat me to it. Aren't many of the people most up in arms about this the same ones who say that people should be able to enter into any contracts they want?
I'm sure Muslem women in domestic violence and divorce cases won't be pressured to accept an Islamic court... Face it, Brits: your courts are now going to enforce sharia law. Just wait until some big case results in tension between your two parallel systems...
By the way, what basis will you have for denying Catholics their own courts? Are you prepared to have your British legal system uphold Catholic judgments on divorce, hmmm?
The classic Sharia bullshit has to be a woman proving rape: Her testimony is only valid if five or more Muslim men witness it. So...five Muslim men stand around comparing notes while they get a good description of the suspect? Better than HELPING HER I guess.
The requirement probably stems from the notion that a woman should never be outside the company of her husband, father, or brothers. You know, so she doesn't spontaneously slut-out from being unsupervised, thus bringing shame on her father, husband, brothers, and all the other halfwits in her tribe. The five witness rule isn't in anyway a disincentive to rape; it's a disincentive to the woman to ever be outside the control of a man in her family. It's like the ol' "she-was-wearing-a-skimpy-outfit-so-she-deserved-it" shtick only a thousand times stricter: "only-a-slut-would-ever-be-in-a-situation-where-she-could-be-raped."
The solution is simple. Don't sign a contract requiring a choice of law provision of Sharia law or requiring a binding arbitration agreement using Sharia law.
And remember to sign correctly or else your fathers and brothers will beat the shit out of you, you slut.
Since Muslems seem to view rape as a near metaphysical impossibility, they'd probably want to know why you didn't use another bullet for that slutty tramp at the bottom of the pile.