What a colossal load of shit. "WF approved outsider list" ?? Are you stoned? Fine..you don't like the tactics employed by Scorp, don't like his call to arms, don't like those who repwar, no problem. Just don't kid yourself into thinking that garamet, Liet, Mewa, and Baba, etc...you know who they are.....haven't engaged in their own bit of unpleasantness or piss-poor behavior that's fucking EARNED them the treatment which they've gotten. Liet's simply the flavor of the day. I'm sure that it's expected that members here accept the notion that Liet doesn't engage in contemptible behavior, and that when he insults those with whom he disagrees, calls them retards, suggests that they're homosexuals (which is a real juicy bit of irony) or that he wishes that someone die, it's all simply an example of a finely honed sense of humor. That same behavior, were it to be observed in those who're not members of the of "WF approved outsider list", is proclaimed as hate. One set is forthright in their assholishness, and they don't shrink from it, nor do they whine about the consequences of their assholishness. The other set is passive-aggressive about it, altering the tone but not the underlying sentiment, and when they end up being caught, they bitch about how unfair all of it is, often engaging long, drawn out debates about why there should be no consequences resulting from their actions. And then there's you, adding your voice to the chorus, "Oh, these sociopaths won't stop making all these little red blocks appear near my name." Are you really so clueless as to believe that the repwarring is intended to drive people off, like Liet suggested as he was weeping this morning? Do you really believe that negreps (which Liet declared as "futile") are any more effective in "driving people away" then Mewa's threats and callout threads? Is leaving a neg (which doesn't bump threads or add to a clogged front page) due to the futility of entering into discussion with garamet somehow worse than garamet's obvious contempt for honest debate? Is Liet's penchant for being a rude, prejudiced, condescending prick somehow better for being thinly-veiled in ten cent words and verbose, but transparent, snark-laden verbal circumlocutions than his critics who are plainspoken in their wishes to see him "Die in a fire"? If you really believe that Liet, Startard, garamet, et al have gotten an unfair shake here, then maybe the pervasive protections of TNZ would suit your delicate sensibilities better. But for today and yesterday, the ubiquitous stupidity of Startard certainly warranted the reaction voiced by Scorponok and others. And as for Liet being at fault: He proved last night and this morning that, in order to get things his way, he'd gladly hobble the board for everyone......something that no repwar has ever done. Send me your email address, marky. I'll paypal you ten bucks toward your purchase of a thicker skin.
Why not? You've made your opinions known before in the RR. You either agree with what they want to do, or you don't. Why be shy about your opinion now?
Wow, what exactly is going on here? I come up for a breather from the Organic Chemistry/Physics tag team swamp that is my life right now, and find that the board is littered with several year old threads and a lot of whining and bitching. What exactly happened since yesterday? As for the topic at hand in this thread, I agree with the OP that of course no one should let anyone else tell them what to do.....but at the same time, if one feels the need to start a thread reasserting confidence and independence, then sorry, but it doesn't sound like there was much confidence there in the first place. IOW, don't proclaim your confidence and independence, LIVE it. Just post as you normally would...and the rest will work itself out.
I don't care about their treatment, nitwit. If Scorp and the others want to bomb them into the red, put them on ignore, or throw feces at them every time they make a post, fine. That's our way for some here. I do not like them trying to force the rest of the membership to comply with their desires with threats however. That shit don't play. See above. Are you stupid, or are you being purposely dense? Again, this is not about them neg repping Baba or Starguard. It is about them threatening to neg the rest of the membership for posting in their threads. And what do they hope to acomplish with that tactic, do you think? You have just described yourself. Oh do go fuck yourself. I fought those assholes and got banned by them over their ideas of 'protecting' the membership a long time ago. I did a damn sight more about that there then you, pussy. See above. And use reading glasses this time. My skin is thick enough thanks.
Considering you're aligning yourself with the biggest blowhard on WF, Liet, I really wonder if you have thick enough skin. I really like you, and I have no problem with YOU taking offense to the neg-reps you might get from posting in a Baba/Startard/retard thread, but I do have a problem with you agreeing with Liet and what he has been doing the last 36 hours.
Meh.... he'll have moved on to his next 'cause' and start his 5th 'Free Cassandra!' thread within 2-3 days. Just let him chase his tail for a while and he'll burn himself out.
As you should. I really don't understand why some people have so much difficulty seeing the problem here. It's really kinda sad.
She's a very useful and I'd even say good mod/Admin when things are running smoothly. That's why. That she's gasoline on the fire when things are running not so smoothly is the problem. She's too fond of trolling to notice when it's no longer trolling and becomes just flat out attempts at bullying. And her relationship with Octavian is just FUBAR.
In this instance Liet is right. If you honestly believe that it is perfectly ok to threaten the entire membership to try and take care of Baba/Starguard spam, I don't know what to tell you.
Is your asshole puckering that badly over the total failure of your latest 'operation'? Go play the guitar and chill out for a while, they'll be another target to bully soon enough.
What has 'failed' about it? When Baba starts his next thread, I intend on negging everyone who replies. It's my rep. I don't give a fuck what you think about it. I think the results on the only thread 'he' has started since the announcement (Dick Cheney molesting someone or something), only 2 replies, has been encouraging.
Not really, no. I told Baba to shut up. I did not give you five or six neg reps to make you tell him to shut up. Follow?
Why tell Baba to shutup? I thought you were all for letting people post whatever the hell they want, in whatever thread they wanted too?
Because I wanted to. You are making this painful. You, Scorp, Sokar, ShootER, Ramen, et al, are free to troll and rep bomb Baba/Starguard all over the board. You can curse them, make fun of their mothers, whatever you feel like. You have the freedom here for that. You cannot however try to force the membership of WF with threats of rep bombing to comply with how you believe they should respond to their threads. Now, why do you believe it's perfectly acceptable to act this way towards the membership here?
I've changed my mind about the Startard threads (actually did it a couple of days ago). If retards want to post in threads started by the retard, more power to them.
Wait....who am I forcing to do anything? I want the retarded threads off the front page. I'm sure you do too. So quit supporting Liet.
For me, it's getting posters to stop feeding the dumbass so he'll stop it, or at least reduce it to a tolerable level.
And many of us were doing that. With a little patience, it would have worked. But the Mighty Rep Warriors decided bullying was a better idea.
Explain to me how one version is more or less true than the other. Furthermore, explain to me how it is that, if they were to say nothing and merely carry out their intended program of negging anyone who responds to Baba or Starguard etc. etc., their actions would not eventually be seen as a threat/promise against those who responded in the future.
^After the Great Board Meltdown of 2007, there hasn't been any real big board drama for any one on the staff to deal with. Which has overall meant only good things for th way the board operates, IMO.