Irony

Wow, congrats! A Baba-esque post.

Do you plan to fill up the forum with your own brand of SPAM till everyone has you on ignore?

Hey Liet, I'm invisible!

You can do better Liet.

Sokar - You do realise that anyone who has Scorponok on ignore probably has you there too?

I see.

So obviously we need more people to quote Scorp to make sure we cover our bases. God only knows who all Liet is afraid to read.

I don't think this is true. I see Liet respond to some of Sokar's posts, but completely has shut ME out.

I wonder why?

This illustrates just how quickly in America the tide can turn in our politics.

And a tide that turns can also turn back.

Something that people proclaiming that "the Republicans will be out of power for 30 years" should remember.

I doubt Sokar realizes anything at all, 'cause his brain just doesn't work that way. That's especially the case for the ironic nature of Zell's book in light of the fact that Zell was one of the more pronounced signs of the Republican party fall to regional status. Zell's the kind of crazy that gives most nonsoutherners the heebie-jeebies, and the Republican party putting him front and center in 2004 was a real dumb-as-a-post moment for the party.

You do realize that the Republicans won in 2004. Right?

Idiot.

you do realize they lost in 2008, right?

And quite badly in 2006 as well. But again, Sokar realizes nothing. If effect isn't instantaneous, then cause is denied as suits him, and effect is never instantaneous. He just makes it up as he goes along.

Any political party that embraces the modern crazy Zell Miller is bound for regional-at-best status once they can no longer paper over their mistakes. When Iraq dragged on and the economy crumbled, people started really taking notice of the fact that the Republicans are run by completely crazy people. Not just partisans, and not just people with whom you might disagree, but by certifiable lunatics, the kind of people who think the current incarnation of Zell Miller makes a great keynote speaker.

The inability of the Republicans to point to any noncrazy politicians that they embrace will keep them noncompetitive outside of the south for the time being. Until Republicans stop embracing their inner Zell, they'll primarily be a regional party.

By what standard are you labeling Republican leaders crazy?

By the standard that they don't agree with his views (tho Zell Miller is, in fact, a total lunatic).

So, just in case he didn't know Scorponok posted something you thought you'd tell him?

The first thing Republicans need to stop doing is fellating the memory of Ronald Reagan and asking WWRD to every decision they make. Once the party stops revolving around him, new ideas can actually have a chance to take hold.

And? The media sensationalizing is nothing new. The Democrats don't pass every decision made by whether FDR would have made it. There are no more "FDR Democrats." It's not FDR's party anymore.

Oh really. List some prominent Democrats who speak ill of FDR, or Johnson's War on Poverty...

wow Liet, you went over to dailykos, read a thread with a shitload of responses and moved it here. Real original. Congrats.

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying Republicans should trash Reagan. Nobody during the Democratic campaign primary or in the general mentioned FDR or any other Democrat to the extend that Republicans tried to sell themselves as being dressed in Reagan's skin. That's the problem. Republicans have deified Reagan to the extend that's impossible for anybody to live up to the mostly mythical image of him. Their search for Reagan purity is why the party is shrinking at a ridiculous pace.