Unlock the Mewa thread

Discussion in 'The Help Desk' started by Archangel, Jun 4, 2009.

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  1. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    It's the Red Room and Mewa gets everything coming to him.

    If you don't unlock, how about a good reason why its locked?
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  2. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Well, that was quick.

    I'm exercising owner's perogative and closing a thread that I personally find extraordinarily disgusting.
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  3. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    You are aware that sets an amazingly bad precedent, right?

    Look, I'm not going to rant and scream...however.

    Lets say what you just said another way.


    "I closed a thread in what is virtually an unmoderated forum because I personally didn't like the content"
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  4. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Yep. But the ugliness on display there is more than I'm willing to put up with. You guys want to call each other names in the Red Room, fine. But that thread was rocketing into the worst sort of racism.

    And you'll note that I didn't delete it, or delete any posts, or anything like that.
  5. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    It honestly doesn't matter, the thread didn't violate the board rules. I mean if you want to say "I'm the owner and that's how it is", that's fine. I'm just saying it doesn't look good. Either way, I've said my piece.

    For what it's worth, I think you've been doing a good job since taking over, your only bad call (imo) is making El Chump a mod. (No, I'm not joking).
  6. Jenee

    Jenee Driver 8

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    Why does everyone have to bitch about every action taken on this board?
  7. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    Do you disagree with my statements?

    If so, how?
  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The owner of a privately-owned entity exerting his prerogative to run that entity any way he chooses "doesn't look good"? On what basis?

    Phelps-level racism, on the other hand, looks just fine to you?
  9. Archangel

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    I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. Besides, did you even read the post you quoted old woman?

    I said specifically Lanz has the right as owner to do anything he wishes, I just said it doesn't look good. The RR has never been about protecting people, that goes doubly so when someone brings the attacks upon themself.

    EDIT: It doesn't look good because there has been a lot of discussion about the staff taking a hands off approach to the RR, but the owner decided to close a thread that violated no rules simply because he didn't like it.

    Now I don't think Lanz would ever do this, but what if he decided he didn't like right wing posts? or left wing posts? or posts by you?
  10. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    You must understand that I am loathe to take actions like that, especially in the Red Room. But what was starting to happen in that thread was, simply, not something I was willing to tolerate.
  11. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    And that's your right, Just saying I disagree. I'm not trying to start a rebellion ;)
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  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Got it the first time. Just find it amusing that you think a decision like this "doesn't look good," but rampant racism is :cool:

    There are plenty of skinhead sites where those thoughts can be applauded.
  13. K.

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    Ok, we know that Lanzman realises no rules were broken, we know he's pulling owner's privilege, and we know everyone realises he can. Now that that's all settled, I'd like to request that someone lock this thread before it reaches page 15.
  14. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    There'd probably be a bigger stink about that than the Red Room thread I closed. :garamet:
  15. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    Nah, it's just Garamet trying to stir up trouble flinging up strawmen.
  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Your cause is not helped by personalizing this.

    One might think you're unable to make a case for why blatant racism in the RR is a good thing.
  17. Archangel

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    Probably because this thread has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

    Also, as a matter of fact, as far as I know, BLATANT RACISM IS ALLOWED IN THE RED ROOM. That's why it's the Red Room.
  18. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Can this thread be derailed before it turns into another 20 page wordforge drama shitstorm?

    I had a tuna sandwich for lunch today. It was tits. :tits:
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  19. Archangel

    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    Actually I was already finished. But this is the Help Desk, so what exactly is wrong with a discussion of policy?
  20. missmanners

    missmanners Anarchist

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    I have a board full of... well, I'm not sure what to call them, and I come here for a break and what do I find but people acting like 13 year olds with the whining and name calling.

    So what if the owner decides to lock a thread once in a while? There are still plenty of name calling and whining opportunities to go around. It is the sacred duty of every board member everywhere to see how far they can push mom and dad and then to whine when the line gets drawn.

    But just like naughty children everywhere, you will all be happier with some boundries. Now go clean your room or I'll take away your PS3 for 2 days.


    [​IMG]

    mm
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    I would hope that the next time Tasvir posts something similar that it's given the same treatment.
  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Okay, now that we're back on topic, I'll just say this much:

    Cliché #1: Just because you *can* do a thing, blah-blah-blah, etc.

    Cliché #2: Two wrongs don't make a right, blah-blah-blah, etc.

    Mewa's thread was in extremely bad taste. He shouldn't have started it, and IMO he deserves at least a friendly.

    However, it's not as if many, many others haven't started "Let's make fun of Tasvir's disability" threads and posts for years, so maybe Mewa thought he was as exempt from the bounds of good taste as those who went before.

    That said, when others mocked Tas, they were greeted with a mix of disgust and amusement, not "Let's all play the race card."

    In short, nothing good was going to come of that thread, and if that's all any of you have to contribute to the Red Room, you do keep emphasizing the reason why some of us are glad we have an alternate venue.
  23. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Little by little, bit by bit, Wordforge loses itself.
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  24. Darkening

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    Hmmmmm might go make a tuna sandwich now, all i had for dinner was a pizza and some ribs and then some baked potatoes with roast chicken.

    Not in that order.
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    Me, too. The sandwich itself was pretty good but the waitress was great!
  26. $corp

    $corp Dirty Old Chinaman

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    I'm glad to hear Lanzman was loathe to close that thread. I believe he's doing a pretty good job as owner so far, but I must wonder why that particular thread?

    Surely we've had the word Nigger used left right and center on more than one occasion, thanks to Megatron. I am willing to overlook one thread, but I hope this isn't the beginning of a pattern, but rather an anomaly that happens as often as Halley's Comet, or a Baba post that makes sense.
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  27. Archangel

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    But yet you can't bring yourself to stay in that alternate venue. You keep coming out and trying to force people to post the way you want. You want to stop discussion you don't like, how very open-minded and progressive of you.
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    $corp Dirty Old Chinaman

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    Y'know, the thread lock is really bad timing too. It seems that the bitching has died down a little bit between the factions, save a few stragglers, and we're finally starting to see more "normal Red Room postings. And now there is going to be a whole new controversy and shitstorm because of this.

    The better decision would have been to keep it open and let it take it's course. Unless Mewa wanted it to, that thread probably would've had the same lifespan and activity as the stinky east indian one.
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    Which was probably Mewa's motivation for posting it in the first place.


    Gotsta have drama!
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  30. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Or we just ban you and leave the thread open.

    :soma:
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