I have no link on this- I lifted it from another site, but am attempting to track down a link and will post it if it becomes available. So take this with whatever measure of salt you will; I still think it's interesting enough to post because I'm getting the same vibe from some other places as well. Read and discuss.
People have nothing to fear from the Obama Administration, but they do have very good reason to fear another force that lives amongst us, one that I fear will prove itself to be far more deadlier than Obama could ever be!
Well, he can go fuck himself. He starts with that shit, he's lost me. I want sane people talking, not this guy. I don't care if he hates Obama or wants to suck his dick, but he starts with this kind of shit and I'm relegating him to the tinfoil hat brigade. J.
Bullshit or not, if more people are leaning towards all hell breaking loose, it then ends up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Blame it on gun nuts, or the tinfoil hat brigade, but now that anyone with a computer and an internet connection can look up 1001 reasons why the shit is about to hit the fan, we will see more of this type of reaction. We live in uncertain times. The economy is in ruins and there's a government that appears more and more intrusive. It's not surprising that people stock up on guns and ammo during these times.
Now see, you I would listen to. Whether I would agree or not would be one thing, but I think you're sane, so I would listen to you express your point of view. J.
When you lot finally up and start shooting each other like you all seem to want so much can we get 24hr coverage on pay-per-view?
Here are the four fears: Federal government intruding into our lives An assault weapons ban looming A revolution is coming General societal chaos 1) Has already happened, the federal government has been intruding into our lives for years. 2) If the Second Amendment goes, so does the rest of the Constitution. 3) Perhaps but we're not on the cusp of an armed revolt. 4) Too vague for any worthwhile response. Okay, so a no-link blog entry from somebody sharing what he has heard from some other people ends with this disclaimer? Not advocating anything, just providing food for thought?
What I foresee is Timothy McVeigh, part Deux, leading to a broad based national push to put the crazy people like the moron who wrote the stuff Marso copy&pasted out of business for good. Once right wing terrorists move on from assassinating doctors who perform abortions and start blowing up buildings again, that'll be that. No one's going to cry when the black helicopters swoop in with federal commandos to rip off the crazies' foil hats and fly 'em away to be secretly experimented on in Area 51. You know what American people, and not just the right-wing paranoid lunatics, are really afraid of right now? Losing jobs. Losing health care coverage. Losing their homes. Losing their retirement funds. The typical American doesn't give a rats ass about the nonsense that makes Marso tick, and that's never going to change. Right wing paranoid lunatics may be loud, but they're not even close to being typical, and when they stop being loud and start being violent, they're gonna get their asses royally kicked.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a soldier I would never turn my weapon on our own citizens, not even if the POTUS ordered me to do it. The only way I would ever shoot at one would be in self defense. Having said that I agree with the others in this thread that the article posted is quite extreme and I think a revolution is quite unlikely.
I think an armed revolution remains unlikely for now. I think a political revolution may be brewing. With the reality-impaired now almost totally in charge of the federal gubbermint, I think within the next three election cycles there should be a "sweep the house" kind of thing in Congress where almost all of the incumbents are kicked out and a moderate conservative winds up President. Some of this should also happen at the State level, especially in places like California, where incompetent and feckless governments have fucked themselves royally.
I'm sure there are loads of other soldiers who think just the way you do. Which is why when soldiers are ordered to gun down citizens, they will be told it is for their own self defence. It's happened before.
Or Canada.....by and large, they don't have guns or a propensity towards violence....and their military is minimal at best.....it would be a cakewalk!
How drunk was this cop when he wrote this? Or is this going to turn out to be another of those fake viral emails?
Finally got a link for the letter: link Some of the posted comments after the article are interesting. In fact, some of them mirror the discussion here pretty closely. The debate rages in many quarters, it seems!
I have very little doubt that you would act accordingly. However, a lot of people say this and history disagrees. Shay's Rebellion, the Whiskey Rebellion, the Toledo War, the Dorr Rebellion, the Mormon War, the Honey War, Bleeding Kansas, the Utah War, the Civil War, the Brooks-Baxter War, the Battle of Blair Mountain, and Kent State are all examples of United States Army Regulars taking up arms against Citizens of the United States of America. Almost all of them are rationalized away as self-defense. Regardless of the level or importance of your service, it's up to each man to decide what lines he can't cross and what he'll do when he gets to those lines. Unfortunately, there are as many variations and lines as their are people involved.
More like rocks and tear gas cannisters but, yeah, the response was way out of line. A friend of mine who went to the University of Texas used to wear BDU pants and a Kent State t-shirt around campus just to piss off the students there. Did I mention that he took the shirt to the firing range and "ventilated" it before wearing it?
