What the fuck happened to George Lucas!?!?!?

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  1. Volpone

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    ...I mean, seriously.

    I just wound up stuck in a conversation with my roommate, where she was going on and on and on about how the latest girl from our little club had wronged her and hated her guts. And I found myself thinking "the only thing all your fulfilling relationships have in common is you." And then I'm thinking about the tree in "Empire Strikes Back" and how Yoda counsels Luke that the only thing you'll find in the tree is what you bring in with you. Woah. That is some heavy shit right there.

    And 18 years later he'd give us Midiclorians, C3P0 built from junk by an 8 year old, and Jar-Jar motherfucking Binks. :garamet:
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    :mystery::mystery::mystery::mystery::mystery:

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  3. T.R

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    I believe it has to do with Lawrence Kasdan not being available. Kasdan took over the screenwriting duties on TESB after the death of Leigh Brackett. He also wrote ROTJ, but had to make concessions to Lucas ie: not being able to kill any of the leads off,ewoks etc. Is it any wonder that we saw so few poignant moments in the prequals like we did in TESB or even ROTJ? It could be just a coincidence, but once Lucs went back to writing it all himself, Star Wars diluted into silliness and bad dialogue.
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  4. Uncle Albert

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    He made some money, and started believing the sycophants when they told him his genius was unimpeachable.
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    Young writers and directors often enjoy writing stuff that is "edgier".

    But 20 years later, they've got families, children, and see toddlers playing with toys based on their work.

    Many end up uncomfortable with the stuff they produced at a younger age.

    So you get things like "Greedo fired first" and "in ET the federal agents shotguns replaced with flashlights".
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  7. Captain J

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    You could have been making your move on her when she needed you, and instead you were thinking of an 18 year old virgin in a tree. :unsure:
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    It is widely believed that his body has been invaded by the intellectual juggernaut that is Jar Jar Binks and that he Ebayed his testicles and brains and they were bought by space aliens.
  10. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Yeah, Kasdan was a writing god in the 80s. I miss that streak he was on.
  11. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Once upon a time, George Lucas was a passionate young film student who envisioned a world as vast and imaginative as Tolkiens' Middle Earth, developed a story that borrowed from Kurosawa's epic films Hidden Fortress and Seven Samurai, and created a protagonist straight out of Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces. From these tremendous influences, Star Wars was born.

    After the success of the original Star Wars, Lucas discarded these influences and worked off his own myth. Unfortunately, the results are flat, decidedly non-epic, and without resonance. Despite the technical mastery Lucas attained, he has been unable to connect on the same level that he did back in 1977.

    I was thinking just now: from one point of view, isn't the prequel story ultimately one of betrayal? If you were writing a betrayal story and wanted to pattern your tale after a classic example, which would you choose? If you're on my same wavelength, you'll see that one thought opens up a whole universe of interesting ideas that were missing from the prequels.
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