Britnannyia: Why Crime Stats Are Bullshit

Well, there is the rape.

False. We don't have that. Only some of us have that.

Some of you Euro's forget America is made up of fifty different states.

States that do have CCW, stand your ground and castle laws are experiencing a downturn in crime. States that don't have it are holding or increasing in crime.

Oh and since we know your government no longer even bothers to accurately record crimes any statistics you use are null and void. Can't trust them. You're governments police force purposefully lies.

Why does sending some guy to prison end up making them more hardcore criminals? It's because they are free to visit with other more hardcore criminals and get taught by them.

People who go to jail should remain in isolation. Go to work, then go back to their own individual cell. No talking. No visiting. Except for family visits. Someone misbehaves at work, throw them into a damp room where they can fester in their own shit and piss for a week with only the bare necessities.

What planet do you live on? Harshest sentencing in Europe? Even if that were true the sentencing powers judge's have force them to hand down weak punishments and needs serious reform.

As for crime, it is unquestionable that it's increasing. Hell, you can see it with your own eyes.....where I grew up, where I live now, other places I have lived...over time more undesirables have appeared and the police have been powerless to staop them.

What we need is a deterrent and I say arm the police. Organised criminals already have guns and petty criminals, of which we have far more than most armed countries, will be less likely to commit crimes if they may be shot.

Also, we need to pay coppers higher starting salaries so more of them sign up. Hell, a regular constable only gets about two thirds of what a striking tube driver gets. Is this right? I think not.

What the fuck is this shit???????????????????????? Your solution is not to jail criminals???????? What are you going to do? Give them community service? Immediately put them on the back, tell them they're going to be rehabilitated and send them on a team building weekend to the Cotswolds?

What a pathetic excuse of a citizen you are.

You know, I am sick of the dope smoking peace brigade telling me that prison is too harsh and all crims should rehabilitated. My opinion is, fuck 'em. If you have laws and some scumbag breaks them then he should be punished. End of. If he does his time and commits another crime after release, punish him some more. More fool him for going back to crime. Oh, and let's bin all that "good behaviour" shit. You get ten years, you serve ten years. No debate.

You cannot "cure" criminality.

Fuck arming the police or the populace; undo the slide from a thieftaking Police Force to a Police Service concerned with social engineering and revenue collection which began with the MacPherson Report.

Any of the British posters who think that our streets are better policed now than ten years ago is a flat out lying cunt or needs to fess up and admit their membership of the Labor party.

Ok, so what is distinctive about our system that means it happens in ours and not others.

And what is the answer?

Firstly, crime is increasing in safe areas. Secondly, you cannot remedy poverty.....unless you want to increase benefit culture. If you do you can fuck off right now. Thirdly, whilst I am sure you said it in jest, killing everybody in poverty would just realigned those at the bottom of society.

Don't give a shit what most police think. Most police aren't educated enough to make an informed decision.....and policemen friends I have in senior positions would not onlyt readily admit that to you but also debate the arms issue openly.

Also, perhaps an outside view is needed on the issue.....such as that of the people who are on the receiving end of crime.

Jesus man. How can you honestly wade into these threads spouting this nonsense, having no opinion on the solution, and ever hope to possibly be taken seriously?

Yet some of those do work.

For example, corporal punishment is highly effective at stopping bad behaviour in some people. The feral youth is hardly a new thing, however the scale of the problem is new and has been growing since physical punishments stopped. A clip round the ear at age 10 beats 18 months in a young offenders at age 15, does it not?

There are a range of solutions that can be applied, none will act universally, but in concert they can tamp down of the levels of crime.

I like this post.

I've always been somewhat a fan of Brehon Law and other similar customs. If you harm someone, you work off the cost of fixing the problem. You serve the actual victim's family too, not the government. They did allow for blood revenge, while this is not aweful, I think taking a life giving you a lifetime of servitude to the victim's family would be enough to answer for the crime. Plus, it's really really hard to start a blood feud if the perp is still alive.

Remove vice crimes from the books and you've got my support.