Yucca Mountain facility closed!

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Midnight Funeral, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. Tuckerfan

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    So you're in the "Fuck states rights" camp, then, I take it?
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  2. Dayton Kitchens

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    Sure it would be dangerous now.

    But if we have space elevators in 100 years or so chances are it would be cheap enough and safe enough.
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  3. Dayton Kitchens

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    Fusion reactors are always "30 years in the future".

    Chances are, we won't have commercially viable fusion until we get out to Uranus and mine Helium-3 from its atmosphere.

    Helium-3 on the moon is too rare (one part per million at best) to be commercially viable.
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  4. Starguard

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    Lets take it to Canada and dump it. There's a certain Troll named St.Lucifer up there that could use it :crazy:
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  5. Captain J

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    Couldn't the messiah just swallow it all and neutralize it? :bergman:
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    Probably not.

    But I'd give him 20 dollars just to take a shot.
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    Bah, the Feds will probably spend millions on yet another study that ends up recommending Yucca Mountain. Meanwhile, another decade (at least) will have passed.
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    The anti-nuke people really need to die in a fire.
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  9. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Hey, at least you have some nuclear power plants feeding into the grid. Down here we have the perfect environment for storage of waste but despite making a shitload of money from selling uranium to the world the public doesn't want us burying it again or using it ourselves.
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    Hopefully in a century or so we'll have a better means of dealing with waste than rocket-powered dumpsters, there's just something horribly troubling about shooting our civilizations nuclear defecation into space.

    :unsure:
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    All thanks to environmentalists who are allowed to lie to the public.
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    Why?

    Dump it into the sun.

    Besides which, unlike science fiction movies and tv shows indicate, space is truly vast.

    We could dump nuclear wastes into space for a billion years and it still wouldn't be noticeable.
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    I agree with Clyde when it comes to the principle of attitude.
    Your attitude sounds rather like humanities when we started dumping all our crap in the sea.
    Now we are stuck with a sea full of crap..

    Plus, I dont think it will ever be economically viable to use space.
    Even in a hundred years the dollar cost per kilo to get into space will probably still be too high.
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    Yeah, that could result in something terrible happening, like blasting the moon and its colonists out of orbit.
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    The solution is newer tech reactors which use the fuel much more efficiently creating vastly less waste. Put what we have in Yucca, build the new Gen reactors and we'd have great clean power. But then the whiny libs would have nothing to cry and moan about........
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    with nuclear power the problem isn't so much the spent fuel. At least that can possibly be used for something and isn't so massive in weight terms.
    The main problem is with low-level waste. The stuff like reactor housings and core materials and anything else that gets a major dose over the lifetime of a nuke plant. Still very dangerous and still takes thousands of years to become safe but there is so much more of it in comparison.
    It is said the UK alone has enough of this waste to fill St Pauls cathedral several times over. The government has no plans at all for what to do with it.
    And this amount is going to increase vastly when the present bunch of nuclear power stations are decommissioned over the next decade or two.
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    But on the upside, we'd have an endless source of these:

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    :techman:
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    Why do nuclear power stations get decommissioned anyway?

    It seems like a silly idea to decom existing power stations when demand for electricity keeps growing.
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    ^The materials only have a certain life expectancy. Under constant radiation bombardment they can only go so long before failing. We don't want to wait for that.

    Also technology passes the old ones by. It's the same reason we don't still use steam locomotives.
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    Gee, if only there was a way to recycle that spent fuel so it can be used again...
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    Partially, also a lack of motivation as we have more coal than we could ever use (all our power plants are primarily coal fired and we still produce so much that 75% of coal mined is exported).

    With a good combination of solar and nuclear technologies we could be a world leader in slashing pollution emissions. We have a massive amount of land that is unusable for agriculture but gets lots of sunlight, and 30% of the worlds low cost uranium deposits.