How Long Till We're Being Warned Not To Stereotype Muslims?

Yet another outrage committed by a Muslim against U.S. citizens.

How long before some official makes a serious announcement warning Americans not to stereotype other Muslims. Especially those serving in the U.S. military.

Personally I get tired of hearing those platitudes.

What a typically Christian thing to say.

Nutters exist in all demographics. McVeigh was a white Christian; should we stereotype you as a murderous psychopath?

Not arguing but the deflection is at least humorous with some of the networks. Today I watched CNN discuss the stress that soldiers experience from post-deployment for 10 minutes as if that had anything to do with this situation. They were going out of their way to try and not speculate into possible religious motivations.

Edit: I should add that they were discussing it as a possible motivation for the shooting, not as a background explanation of the dude's job.

Really? While I was watching, one guy flat out suggested it was religiously motivated. There was some other woman there who kept arguing it had to be PTSD, but that's what she was an "expert" in, so it felt like she was just trying to stay relevant to the discussion.

According to his Wikipedia entry, McVeigh was born into a Catholic family yet later as an adult described himself as "agnostic" and said "science is my god".

Okay then...should we stereotype agnostics as murderous psychopaths?

Well, since you're working on guilt by association:

That's from the same Wiki article.
Still want to stick with it?


J.

Heaven forbid we should avoid stereotyping people. My God, whatever will be next?

I don't recall Timothy McVeigh indicating his religious beliefs (or a lack of them) his race, or his political preferences had anything to do with his bombing.

From what has been reported about this murderer at Fort Hood, his being a Muslim and his opinions about U.S. military operations overseas in Muslim countries do indeed seem to have been at least part of his motivation.

You have often combined your religious beliefs with your belief that the US should essentially rule the world with a military iron fist, so I think it's now safe to assume that all Christians are warmongers?

So does that make people like McVeigh less dangerous, or more dangerous than Muslims?

Good question.

I'm not sure.

That doesn't explain anything about you wanting to tar every Muslim with the same brush. So, Dayton. McVeigh said he was a libertarian, a member of the NRA, a registered member of the Republican Party, was white and was raised Christian even though he moved from it later. I wonder if there are any white, NRA members who are libertarian and is currently or at one time a member of the Republican party and may have been or still is Christian? Come on Dayton, you were all gung ho about guilt by association, now you're trying to sidestep it. You, by associating guilt by belief and political persuasion, just called most of this board a bunch of terrorists.

Now, either your ass accidentally came out of your mouth a bit when you spoke, or you really believe it. Which one is it?

J.

Weren't his motivations political in nature?

I guess you're right.

I got angry and lost my perspective on the matter.

Oh yeah?!? Well you're obviously a closet...wait....what?

That's what I figured. When stuff like this happens, people get really emotional and say things they don't really mean. It's understandable.

J.

Fortunately, the heart and soul of America regards P.C. about as much as Linda the Lurker reveres the Queen.

Yet it still pales in significance to the number of outrages committed by the US against Muslims.

To be fair about it, there have been numerous incidents like this one that have been perpetrated by muslims. There was a shooting at a millitary base in Iraq done by a muslim soldier, a plan to blow up another millitary base by igniting an underground natural gas line, A planned shooting in a mall, Jose Padilla, and the Baltway Snipers. How many isolated incidents does it take to make a pattern?

I don't think this is all muslims by any stretch of the imagination, mostly the radicals, but, after about the 5th "isolated incident", a pattern starts to develop. I think there are a number of radical muslims in the united states who are attacking the millitary and civillians. NOT all muslim, but radicals.

The U.S. has saved many Muslim lives.

We did launch large scale bombing campaigns twice against Serbia in order to defend Muslims in the old Yugoslavia.

We did lead Desert Storm to liberate Muslim Kuwait from Iraq.

We blow with the winds of.... um.... political expediencey?

Israel isn't occupying any Muslim country right now.

The largest Israeli invasion of Muslim countries was the Six Day War.

And by any reasonable standard, Israel was not the aggressor as Egypt, Syria,and Jordan had already committed internationally recognized acts of war against Israel prior to Israeli action.

Egypt shutting down Israeli access to the Red Sea.

Syria shelling Israeli farms and villages from the Golan Heights.

Jordan by supporting Egypt and Syria (very foolishly) after the shooting started.

As for Palestine, there has not been any Palestinian nation in the modern world.

Save your breath...you know the very existence of Israel is considered a crime against the Muslim world...so when their attacked and when they defend themselves their labeled the badguys from the usual suspects.

Same with the US when we respond to terror attacks..were said to be in the wrong and it's our fault we were attacked in the first place...it's never the fault of the terrorist in the eyes of some here and elsewhere.

What was wrong with invading and occupying Iraq?

They were hostile to U.S. interests.

By any reasonable definition that makes them a legitimate target of the U.S.