Flight lockdown the untold story: All about the money?

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Midnight Funeral, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Midnight Funeral

    Midnight Funeral Cúchulainn

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    My own personal conspiracy theory...

    There's nothing stopping many of the cancelled commercial flights from flying, as long as they stay below 10 or 15 thousand feet.

    But, at such altitudes, they burn much more fuel because the air is thicker than at their normal cruising altitude. They'd become uneconomical. So they would rather cancel them altogether. Even if said uneconomical flights would only be running for a few days.
  2. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    it's true it would cost more to fly at those altitudes, it would also require a massive amount of reworking of flight plans though, and the amount of work required to double and triple check them all (after all even one mistake would be very costly) means it probably isn't practical anyway.
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    What flight lockdown?
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Much of Western/Northern Europe has been a no flight zone for the past day, and is expected to continue to be for at least the next couple of days. A volcano erupted in Iceland and due to volcanic ash in the air it isn't safe to fly airplanes.
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    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    :soma: Wow. A volcano in Iceland shutting down European air travel... must've been a big volcano!
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Yeah, although it's largely just caution due to how destructive volcanic ash actually is.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    All I can say is that Iceland can kiss its plans to get into the EU good-by after that trick! They want to join up and then they hit us with a volcano? Is that any way to treat potential friends and family? :rant:


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    Dan Leach Climbing Staff Member Moderator

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    What is actualy contained within news reports over there.
    Does it contain any actual news?
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Oh do shut the fuck up. Sometimes you just miss stuff. I heard about the Volcano, but something big went down in Maryland last weekend (a police brutality incident) and I didn't hear anything about it because, you know, I was busy and didn't have time to watch the news.
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    edit: fuck it, Elwood said it better.
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    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    It doesn't actually take much. Jet engines and volcanic ash are not a good combo.
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    Now, as to the OP,

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F48S100&show_article=1

    So no, it's not about the money.
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    On another board I frequent, one of the posters is from Iceland. Here's a pic of a farm owned by a friend of his.

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    Here's the same farm a couple of days later as they were evacuating out of the area.

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  16. mlong

    mlong Poking that old Liberal Bear

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    This whole thing just reminds us that nature has a whole lot more an effect on "climate change" then anything we do...just think how much co2 this things putting out.:lol:
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    With luck, not as much as Mt. Tambora did in 1815.

    Maybe God just got fed up with us and decided to counteract human interference on his own...
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    I still prefer the asteroid.
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    >_<

    1) It's all about averages over time. There are natural sources of CO2 yes, along with natural ways of it being removed from the atmosphere. When we add more CO2 we are increasing the overall levels beyond the natural averages.

    2) Are you really disputing that humans have increased the level of CO2 in the Earths atmosphere? After thousands of years of remaining around the 270-290ppm range CO2 levels just happened to completely coincidentally start rising at the start of the industrial revolution? It's completely coincidental that as the world has grown more industrialised, with more CO2 being pumped into the air, that CO2 levels have continued to rise? The fact you say "climate change" makes me think you doubt its existence, but that isn't a debate I will get into here. Maybe you have a legitimate scientific reason for thinking that increased levels of a greenhouse gas in the atmosphere will not increase the greenhouse effect. Like I said though I won't get into that here because this is about CO2 levels which we know we are increasing.

    3) All the previous is a moot point anyway:

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    This shit won't be anything compared to what'll happen if Katla erupts. Every recorded eruption of Eyjafjalajokul has been accompained by Katla erupting a few months later. Katla is much bigger than its sister volcano. Katla erupting could produce brutally cold winters for the next couple of years from all the ash it's capable of belching up. It's closer in size to Tambora. Not as big, thank God., but much bigger than Eyjafjalajokul.

    Months That Should Be Summer's Prime
    Sleet and Snow and Frost and Rime
    Air So Cold You See Your Breath
    Eighteen hundred and Froze to Death....
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    Another horrific view of the volcano.

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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Awesome! Easy to understand where the ancients' concept of Hell came from...
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    No, that would be The Neutral Zone.
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  24. Ward

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    Yer nutz. It's Obama setting off the earthquake machine again so he can go play golf. :D :lol:
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    Shooting down a Polish jet wasn't enough. :sob:
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    Looks like Elwood had Mexican food for lunch again. :elflat:
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    In other news, this guy was on a photo shoot in the glacier fields there when the thing blew up.
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  28. CaptainChewbacca

    CaptainChewbacca Lord of Rodly Might

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    And sometimes people wonder WHY a guy with my smarts would go into geology. Its just so fucking COOL!


    Edit: Just when you thought it was safe, the volcano spews ANOTHER ash cloud. Hope nobody wanted to fly into or out of the UK this week.
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    Chewie, to what degree is it possible to predict volcanic activity? How long will it last? Will the other one (Katia?) go off? Are there any kind of reasonable guesses on those things?


  30. Zombie

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    Supposedly these eruptions are laying the ground work for the other BIGGER volcano to blow it's top.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katla

    :soma:

    Fire and Ice. All in the same location.