Sexual Depravity Among Teenagers Has Gotten Disturbing

My father never gave me the "Birds & Bees" talk because he was still waiting for his father to give that talk to him... Whatchagonnado?

Where were these girls when I was growing up?

Eh.

I'd explain it to her. Unless you were homeschooling the child and knew EXACTLY what info your kids had and where they got it (and if you have a net connection even that knowledge is only with about an 80% confidence at best) I think that it's best o ASSUME that they WILL in fact find out and you can't trust that the person who explains it will impart your particular point of view on the subject.

Even if your view is only "be safe"

I won't say there are not things that I did when I was single that I wouldn't want my kids to do, but would I be particularly troubled if my son came home a year from now and told me he'd done pretty much exactly what I described above?

Not really, no.

I mean from a religious point of view, if I was trying very hard to get him to do "the Lord's will" would I say that either event was "wrong"?

I suppose.

But laying aside religiously driven morality, I wouldn't be bothered by it at all.

I think that there's more wrong with hypocracy than there is with casual sex (ethically speaking) and if I don't think what I did was worthy of regret (and I don't) then I can't in good conscious express regret that he did it.

I know... this was my rationale with my son. He's now 16. My daughter is so... impressionable. I explained it to her in very careful terms that she could understand, but it was very difficult for me. She just looked at me and asked why would anybody do that with a disgusted look on her face... The kid that sent it to her is a good kid and she probably thought it was funny. I can't sheild her from everything, I know... and I really regret what happened to her phone...

We're not the Cosby's.

For some reason this reminds me of a joke.

Kid comes home from school crying. Mommy says what's wrong. Kid says all the kids call me wolfman and run away from me.

Oh son, kids can be cruel. Don't let it get you down. Kid says ok I'll try. I love you, Mommy.

I love you too, son. Dinner is almost ready. Now go wash your hands and comb your face.

Oddly enough, she WAS a flutist!

Well not with ugly people, no.

If you're not a hypocrite then you aren't a good parent.

Being a good parent should be wanting your kids to do things better than you did and avoid some of the mistakes you made.

If you once wrapped your car around a tree driving drunk, would you give a kid of yours a few "free passes" on driving under the influence.

I would have absolutely NO problem if my daughter followed my sexual pattern.
1. Lost my virginity to someone I honestly cared about.
2. Practiced, for the most part (more in a bit about this), serial monogamy


Now, in my late 20's - early 30's, I was in a swinging marriage. We didn't swing much, once or twice a month usually. If my daughter wanted to do the same, her business, not mine.

The last teenager I shagged was pretty depraved.

Thankfully.

Personally, I wouldn't want to tell my kids when they were 12.

I'm starting that conversation from when they're 4. If they're old enough to ask the question, they're old enough to know a non-lie answer.

Quakers.

Megatron agrees: These teens are from broken families and truly have no one to guide them.

Actually, the specific teen I'm referring to is from what appears to be a stable family with a father, mother (who is a teacher), and three brothers.

Not to mention, she is considered an extremely smart student who is being moved into advanced classes that our school doesn't even offer.

I just don't get it.

I guess dad was right

"There is no reasoning with an empty stomach, a hard dick, or a wet pussy".

Dad got much more explicit in his comments to me once Mom died.

I covered that in the first paragraph - specifically stating: "I can't say there are not things i wouldn't want them to do"

Further, my comment on hypocracy was NOT "I can't complain if they do something I DID" - rather, the statement was "I can't ask them to regret doing something that i don't regret doing."

There's a BIG difference in the two.

My wife and I are good friends with a couple who are considerably older than we are (a guy I served with in the NG and his wife). When my wife and I first got married and had our oldest daughter, our friends had two teenage daughters at home.

We learned a lot about parenting from them because they were absolutely frank with their girls about sex and other "touchy" matters. They didn't mince words when discussing the kinds of things that usually make parents uncomfortable.

We've been the same way with our girls and, so far (one's nearly 19 and the other 14), we've had no issues at all in that area.

One thing I find absolutely appalling and disgusting is how teenage boys talk about girls.

It is as though they don't even like women. They speak about them in terribly insulting and dismissive ways. Like they're just a piece of meat to be used and discarded at will.

And they feel NO responsibility. NONE whatsoever for what happens to girls they have sex with. No responsibility for STDs. Naturally none for pregnancy. Damn sure none for a girls feelings and emotions.

Generalize much? Obviously spoken from someone with no kids or maturity.
Some of the wildest kids are from stable, loving families. Kids are going to do what kids are going to do, period. You can raise four kids the same way, and get four different types of behaviors.

True.

Parents are not 100% responsible for what their kids decide to do.

By the way,

While I'm against all premarital and extramarital sex and always have been.

I think there is a major difference between a 17 year old who starts having sex with her boyfriend fully intending to marry him a couple of years later (and who subsequently does)..........and a 15 year old who starts having sex with an average of three different partners a year for the next 10 years until she decides to get married.

Same applies for guys too of course.

Checked out parents combined with hateful, depraved music lyrics and videos and similar video games plus letting kids go unmonitored on the internet is the recipe for this disaster.

It's sad that parents actually have to be concerned their daughter will be a used up, bitter, diseased whore before they even leave the house...probably with a couple kids.

Some people spend hours worrying about the Gubmint printing cash and devaluing the economy...but think not at all of their kids spreading it around and devaluing their self-worth and possibly their futures for the fleeting "pleasures" of orgasm and bowing to peer pressure for worthless "popularity".

It's just....sad.

I don't see the "major difference."
It's like shoplifting once a year or once a day....it's still shoplifting.

Oh please! Broken family doesn't necessarily mean 'divorced' families. Broken could be that: mom and dad are too busy to raise their kids and are doing so with nannies or the TV. Could be that the 'picture' of the happy 'good' family isn't what it truly is. If you keep a good eye on your child and make sure your children are with good company, there wouldn't be any problems.

I don't mean though that 'teens shouldnt have sex' I mean they should be taught that sex is something serious and not to be toyed around with at such a young age. Once they are grown adults, do whatever you want. But whilst you are young teenagers, get a better understanding on how your actions would actually shape you in your adult life.

Dude, you don't have a clue. You can be Bill Fucking Cosby and your kids can still end up in prison.

You can be Al Bundy and your kids turn out be pillars of the community.

Another problem is the best way to teach your kids, is to actually spend time with and get to know who your child is.

Way, way too many parents can't or won't and rely on whatever "wisdom" they dig up from who knows where.

You must know them before you can teach or control them. It's that easy and that hard.

This much is certain. I've known people from families where mommy washes your mouth out with bleach and daddy beats your ass all over the house that became highly successful individuals, where people from homes filled with love and money became the dregs of society, bottom feeders. It pains me to say it, but it truly is a crap shoot, and may depend on your childs personality more than anything you might do as a parent. Not that being an actual fucking parent wouldn't help, mind you.