Border fence climbed in 18 seconds.....go Mexico!

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  1. oldfella1962

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  2. Uncle Albert

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    The fucking thing has hand holds. This is not validation of the idiotic "no fence can be effective" argument. It is possible to build a fence to keep most people out. The political will just isn't there. Yet.
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    Cost of fence per mile $4million.

    Cost of sniper per mile.....a whole lot less and more reliable.


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  4. Ward

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    Meaningless stunt.

    It's not impossible for someone in reasonably good shape but I'm betting that 75% of illegals couldn't do it.

    As with any national defense strategy, this fence can only be one part of the plan.
  5. Uncle Albert

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    This is one of those things I would address if I woke up with some "power of Q" some day. I wouldn't even ask permission. A 50 foot tall wall, sunk 50 feet in the ground, with fully-appointed guard towers every 50 yards would just suddenly appear. Then I'd make the politicians stand in front of the whole country and tell me they want it removed.
  6. Ward

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    50 ft wall, 50 ft in the ground? Wouldn't that defeat the point? ;)
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  7. Uncle Albert

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    Don't be dense. I'll beat you. 50 feet above ground, another 50 feet below, 100 total.
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  8. Jenee

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    Not necessarily. My step brother could climb cocoanut trees from a very early age because they were prevalent in the area he grew up in.

    Climbing this kind of fence for Mexicans would be like you or I climbing a chain link fence or an apple tree.
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    The fences isn't designed to be impenetrable. This is part of the problem, as has been pointed out.

    The strategy has been to make fences redirect people to "choke points" so that you can get more enforcement power with less manpower.

    I could be wrong, but I think that electrifying said fence could go a long way. :|
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    That might break off after a while.

    You'd be better off welding nails/spikes to the posts.
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  11. Ward

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    Electrifying a fence trains dogs. After a while, they learn so well that you can turn off the power and they still won't challenge it. :shrug:
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  12. Ward

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    That's why I set the bar as low as I did. Some people could, certainly. Most people couldn't do it at all.
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    :facepalm: So you're saying...fences like this are prevalent in Mexican communities? Or that chain link fences are very similar to apple trees? Help me out here.
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    How can you be so stupid, yet still walk and talk like a normal person?
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    Basic premise of defensive tactics: You don't put up an unobserved obstacle. With the proper technique and enough time, anyone can defeat a minefield or razor wire. Now if you have a machine gun pointed at the minefield or razor wire, not so much.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    With the power of Q you could stabilize the Mexican economy.
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    I really wish we would put the sniper and sharpshooter schools on the border. Just eminate domain one mile in from the border, put signs up that anyone in that one mile zone is lible to be killed, and tell the snipers ans sharpshooters they graduate on a point basis. 100 points in a week with 1 point per Mexican man and woman wasted and 2 points per child. It's like a practicum.
  18. Chest Rockwell

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    With the power of Q I could also simply kill off the Mexicans and open up all that prime property for us.

    If I was feeling really merciful that day I'd just turn them into iguanas.
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    Hidden Claymore mines pointing in both directions that are triggered by motion/heat/remote human hand if surveillence camera gets a visual.
    Put up clear bilingual warnings (with pictures) that Claymore mines are apt to go off at any time within X distance of either side of the fence.

    Detonation can be temporarily disabled in any desired location if fence/claymore maintenance is required.

    Mine locations are changed periodically at random intervals.

    Any bodies that are shredded are left for the buzzards as a message/deterrent. :shakes:
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    Buzzard's got to eat same as a worm.
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    I could, but why would I fix the result of massive, systemic corruption?

    For that matter, why would being all-powerful automatically mean I must advance the interests of all nations equally? Suppose I just serve the interests of the U.S. when it pleases me to do so, like a Doc Manhattan or something.

    If anything, my manipulations of world affairs would attend to the things that annoy me and ignore the things that did not, or rather, help people I decide deserve it. Maybe I wouldn't fix the Mexican economy, but the individual, innocent (because I'm now all-knowing and can distinguish these things) families would suddenly find themselves with all the necessities of life heaped on them.

    Maybe do something similar with Israel/Palestine. Lock down the real-estate in it's present form, make sure everyone has the food/shelter/medical care they need, and continually disarm anyone with terroristic inclinations.

    And those delightful African nations where rape is a celebrated pastime would be in for a rude awakening. Likewise for all the cowardly shitsacks throughout the world who like to commit those kinds of brutal assaults. Maybe I'd hijack all broadcast media, somehow project myself to all groups in all languages and announce to the world that you are done doing shit like that to each other, that nothing escapes my gaze and the moment you attempt it you will die in agony. And then I'd follow the fuck through with it. Sure, I'd have to deal with the fallout of breaking up families and removing a wage-earner because someone was a piece of shit child molestor or something.

    But I'd at least build a world devoid of rape, murder, and starvation. People might not like me, because there would also be incidents of cars suddenly dying because the driver was acting like an idiot, or cell phones turning to dust in restaurants and movie theaters, but that's part of the package, fuckers.
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    Don't tell me you are silly enough to believe that the government has put up fencing to keep people out of the country.
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    Poor simple minded Jenee is talking to herself again.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If you were all-powerful, you'd realize that nations are silly.
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    If I were all-powerful, I'd be capable of recognizing that, while some individuals can't be redeemed, civilization must find its own way. Free will is at least as important as silly utopian notions like a world without borders and heirarchical authoritah.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Truth is, if you were all-powerful, you wouldn't give a shit about any of that.
  27. Uncle Albert

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    I have put some thought into this. Magically transforming me into a different person is not the same as simply rendering me all powerful. My same beliefs and opinions would still apply. I'd just be able to make it all a reality. And if you're implying that nobody could be all-knowing and still believe the way I do, you can go fuck yourself.
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    Which are defeated with throw rugs you can slap over the fence, throw a rope to the other end, tie it down around the spikes, and climb. It's really easy, especially with a wall only that high.

    Or, ya know, a ladder.
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    I like to think that if I were suddenly given Q-like powers, that I'd still have the same values that I now hold. I don't know why one would suddenly change their way of thinking just because they can.

    Having been "born" with that kind of power is a different story, tho.
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    If you're all-powerful, you will presumably live forever. No need to flip out and do everything at once. I'd start out slow, sort out my own life, then my friends and family, slowly stretching out my influence until I'm watching over the entire planet.

    I wonder if humanity would grow to resent me for preventing everyone from harming each other? There would be no more victims, no more successful predators. Every terrorist attack would fail, every brutal genocide halted. This may warrant a thread of its own.
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