New York governor urges mandatory DNA samples

While I'd agree that murderers, rapists, child molesters, armed robbers, and kidnappers should be DNA collected I'm loath to extend that to misdemeanors.

Do we really need the DNA of a shoplifter? Or some homeless guy getting arrested for pan handling? Or someone with an expired drivers license?

what's the difference in "penal law misdemeanor" and other misdemeanors?

I will give up my DNA when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

New York America's East Germany.

Many states already take DNA samples from everyone arrested. It's also passed muster with the courts.

Only if your completely ignorant and don't understand that several states already do this and the courts have approved it.

Not according to the article.

Not so much:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/dna-arrestees

If it's getting shaken down like this, it hasn't "passed muster" or been "court approved".

And the slipperly slope slides even farther. Next they'll be requiring anyone convicted of a crime to be chipped for tracking, and eventually it will be the entire public.

You were saying?

Which states? Which courts?

Vermont was kidding around about seceding a few years ago. I'm starting to think it's NY that needs to be a separate country.

There's a difference between secession and getting kicked out. I vote we leave'em on the curb.

Who's with me?

I'm with you!

I say we get as many states as possible to not recognize New York state driver's licenses.

My take? If you do prison time, I have no problem putting your DNA on file.

For a misdemeanor? For something that carries no imprisonment? Too low a barrier, IMHO.

People do prison time for vice crimes. No sale. You're not getting my DNA for a pound of fucking weed.

In the case of anyone convicted of a crime, I'd support them taking a sample, running it against a database, then destroying it if there's no match. I suspect it'd solve a lot of unsolved crimes pretty quickly.

I'm told addicts normally take DNA in exchange for drugs.

:blowjob:

I'll make a deal with you:

How about those people don't go to prison?

Correct that first, then we'll talk.

Fair enough.

Oh for fuck's sake.

Next they'll want fingerprints too!

There is no fucking way in hell I'd trust the government to carry thru on the "destroying it" part. You know damn well that data would be stored forever. GATTICA!! GATTICA!!

Do I get my own Uma Thurman?

When I was 22 I got arrested for a drunk in public (it was a college block party) and part of the booking in process was taking a DNA sample from everyone (cotton swab from the inside of the mouth). That was 13 years ago so unless something has changed it has been going on for a very long time.

BTW it was a misdemeanor charge.

Just like gun background check records are supposed to be temporary...

...until some agency decides they want to keep them and you have to take the matter to federal court to resolve it.

"Temporary" record is like "temporary" tax. The only thing that's temporary is its temporariness.

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