You're an idiot. Please, pout a little more over Ron Paul not getting the nomination. You're being a little too subtle.
I for two reasons. The first is that you seem to be eager to see your plan for the presidential succession to yourself proceed. The second is that any candidate emerging from the convention as the nominee who wasn't involved in the primaries will be fucked in the court of public opinion before they even reach the polls. If Jeb was a candidate in the primaries it could possibly happen, but right now not a chance. The fact he is another member of the Bush family would serve to only multiply the "political elites choosing for us" resentment.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I consider both of them dangerous, albeit in different ways. Thus, if it was a Santorum vs. Obama race (it will not be; it will be Romeny vs. Obama), I would write in Ron Paul in all good conscience, caring little about which of the two unacceptable options won. Like I did 4 years ago.
Like a moth to a flame. Lay it out for me, explain to us why Mr. Let's Regulate Consensual Sex (and everything else) is better than the Chocolate Crony Capitalist Neocon.
Because. 1) A President Santorum has ZERO chances of actually regulating sexual behavior no matter his majorities in Congress. & 2) Our current novelty president has one hell of a good chance of wrecking the capitalist free enterprise system in the U.S. if elected for a second and completely unaccountable term as president.
Not true 1. Supreme court appointments alone, certainly a push for a personhood amendment which would include an elimination of birth control. Although this might start a prohibition like Black market for birth control. I would immeadiately begin my life of crime. 2. I see no signs that Obama would "wrack capatalist free enterprise system" he's got Goldman Sachs folks running the treasury, he's given into the Super PAC system, hasn't pushed through the types of regulation the progressive left would like to see on Wall St. Corporate profits are doing well. The Facebook IPO is going to be huge. So I don't see how you can come to that conclusion.
You'd think that wouldn't ya? Of course then there's his chickenhawkish love of war with Iran. Wait, that's a positive in you book ain't it? The Republicans need to be taken to the wood shed if they nominate a militant theocratic apparatchik to be the President of the United States. We don't have a free enterprise system.
(A) What others have said about Missouri and (B) Let him win one occasionally. It'll delude him into thinking he can actually get the nomination, and make the convention a real scrum.
Please explain this. How could a "personhood amendment" imply "an elimination of birth control"? And any amenement that did "eliminate birth control" (which has nothing to do with "personhood") would have zero chance of getting three-quarters of the states to ratify it. Can you really imagine three-quarters of the states voting to outlaw the use of condoms? So please explain what you're talking about.
You're goddamn right I would. Barack Obama is the worst president this country has ever endured. Are you frightened of dust bunnies under your couch and shadows on the walls at nights too? The United States has not and never will be a theocracy. PERIOD. Regulate consensual sex? Where the fuck did you rip that little winner from? A bumper sticker? Why don't you go ahead and just shout "keep your hands off my womb, evil righties!" from the rooftop while you're at it? Right wingers blowing hot air is just that - hot air. Pandering to the bible thumpers. It never gets turned into legislation. Maybe you don't like that gay marriages won't ever being celebrated and loved by all, but tell me how the executive branch has anything to do with that outside the Supreme Court? Pull yourself together. The near-even split that we have there has always been about the same. There will not be a radical shift in its makeup with Romney or Santorum. Here's the bottom line. The religious beliefs of candidate A has no impact on my life because it's shit that he cannot pass. The anti-capitalist beliefs of candidate B; a man who has in his own words in print called working in the private sector akin to being "a spy behind enemy lines", DOES have an impact on my life. Skyrocketing fuel costs. Inflation. Tripling the yearly deficit in just three years. Complete stagnation of the private sector growth largely due to endless regulation. Stagnation in employment. I won't even get into the whole goddamn class warfare, shit like Fast & Furious and calling West Point the 'enemy camp' (he sure seems to have alot of enemies, doesn't he?). For you to say you would actually vote for Obama knowing all this shit is the height of ignorance. You're like a spoiled fucking child who didn't get his way because Ron Paul - a man who wouldn't do HALF the shit he think he can as POTUS - isn't going to get the nomination. It's the ultimate "I'm not getting my way, so I'm want everyone to be miserable" moment. Six dollars for gas per gallon? 4 dollars for a loaf of bread? 2.5 trillion dollar deficit per year? Still 9 percent unemployment in 2016? Trillions of taxpayer money lost to phony green technologies and government mandated AND OWNED car companies? Congrats. This award is for you. :dick:
This, to me, is a much more serious problem than his restrictive moral ideas (restrictive in the sense that he wants to limit the rights of others; I'm not passing judment on how "restrictive" he wants to be in his own personal behavior), because he has a much better chance of succeeding with it. Too many polls show that a near-majority, or even an actual majority, of Americans are willing to go to war with Iran. That, to me, is unacceptable.
It wouldn't eliminate all birth control, but it could eliminate certain kinds of birth control...specifically the kinds that work post-implantation.
I just did a search to see if Santorum introduced or backed any legislation regarding birth control and I'm not finding it. Could someone show me where he did? It's all sort of academic anyway, Romney is still going to win it.
You must have missed the personhood thread. The personhood amendment would state that life begins at the moment of conception (problematic for many reasons) but there are people that believe that contraception, which in some cases can cause an fertilized egg to not be viable and thus not stick to the lining of the uterus, is essentially an abortion, and thus should be made illegal. Santorum has stated that contraception gives people license to do things "in sexual realms". It might let condoms stand, but condoms are not nearly as effective as hormonal birth control methods.
Seriously what fucking planet do you live on where the Republicans represent some sort of laissez faire capitalist alternative? And no mention of Santorum's chickenhawk warmongering? Color me surprised. Who knew that the one vote of a dirt farmer in Oklahoma (which will vote for whomever the Republicans nominate, so my vote don't count cueball) would set you off like this? The Republicans will never be a viable alternative to anything as long as they keep empowering the fundie fuckstains that nominate guys like Santorum. The fact that you'll push people out of the way just to lick some of the froth from his glistening shaft just hammers that point home. You're part of the problem, all in for the Herpderpicans, as long as they let you sit in front of the bus.
I agree. But that's not what she said, so I'd like her to explain. Edit: Which she did, and basically admitted that it would not "eliminate birth control," but only outlaw some forms of it. The "outlaw birth control" remark must have just been some kind of fear-mongering.
The most common forms of birth control used by women fall into this category. All birth control pills, shots, IUDs have the effect of reducing the lining of the uterus which is what causes what antiabortion activist believe to be "abortion" even if it is not the primary way a particualr birth control works. This would leave extreme and expensive procedures such as tubal ligation and vasectomy. Or methods with very high error rates (i.e. condoms). Thus eliminating the best birth control options for millions of women. If you can't afford major surgery? Tough just stop having sex. If the condom breaks? Too bad have the baby. It's totally ridiculous.
Seriously? You just countered my retort to "OMG!! HE'S COMING FOR OUR BIRTH CONTROL!!!" by claiming that I'm the one fear mongering? Seriously man, you should have just sat this one out. You're not good. Warmongering was never the subject, but if you insist on it, I'll be happy to cover that. How many wars has Obama started? How many has Santorum started? Yeah. That's what I thought. You have two choices as far as national politics go. Republican or Democrat. That's it. That is all it will ever be until the day you die. You can squirm around in your diaper and pitch hissy fits all you want, but that isn't going to change anything. Accept it. Try to quell your hysterical dramatic bullshit about fundies long enough to make a list and see which mindset costs you more in your daily life. Fundies that could never get their dumb shit passed, or fairness pimps who will never think you have given the government enough of your money. I know what my fucking answer is. You're every bit as bad as an Obama supporter. You blindly cling to the hope that one person is actually going to turn this country into Libertopia in a single term. All you have to do is believe hard enough! Please, help yourself to a cup of reality.
Also, I'm still waiting for someone to answer this question. I honestly put forth an effort to find just one bill that Santorum sponsored/wrote/backed/whatever that could be consider an assault on access to birth control or any infringement on conception rights at all. Seriously, if it's out there and I didn't find, I want to see it. Anybody?
It's not an argument, it's an irrefutable fact -- you're wrong. Just like the sun is going to rise tomorrow and Uncle Albert is going to blow a gasket with self-indulgent outrage. I'm surprised that you don't recognize your own mother. Tsk tsk.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-grills-rick-santorum-on-social-issues-black-people-comment/ Also you could have just typed in Google " Santorums stance on birth control to find plenty more.
I didn't ask for his stance. I've already read that. I asked for actions he has taken in the senate to turn his stance into law.
