This happened in the town right next to Zedword and I. Seriously, guys. This is disturbing and extremely disappointing. There is no way that this is proper procedure.. Buckshots all in his home, family dog was shot, all while his kid was in the house as well. Over what? Weed. [YT="WARNING: This gets pretty graphic"]QRNggYGYFzg&feature=share[/YT]
One of the people I follow on twitter is a cop watcher. Cops shooting dogs is one of the things he has been concentrating on lately. Some times its necessary. I have seen dogs that are trained to hate the police. On the other hand there are plenty of instances where LEOs have shot dogs out of routine when it appears that there is no reason to. However sensationalist headlines and reality are some where in between.
I've read that police when raiding a house for any reason ROUTINELY shoot any dogs they encounter whether they are an obvious threat or not. I believe it is more than the claim that dogs are a threat but that they are a nuisance (and any barking can alert the residents) and a variable that police don't want to leave behind them as they move onto someones property. Remember, it was shooting of a dog by the FBI that touched off the Ruby Ridge disaster. Once again, this is a consequence of having people dressed, trained, and armed like soldiers doing the job of a beat cop.
I want to know why on earth his home was raided like that at all. Okay, say the cops had more of a reason to be there...look at all the bullet holes through the walls. His 4 year old was in that house. Why are you shooting off a gun first thing in a house that an unsuspecting child is in? This entire scenerio just seems extremely careless and sloppy on the police's part no matter which way you look at it.
Instead of a War on Drugs, we need a war on douchebags who think people's personal choices and private lives are any of their damned business.
I bet they are going to try and use the guy's concealed carry permit as an excuse for this atrocity. Which, IMHO, doesn't fly.
Could have been worse. Look up the case of Cory Maye. Police were raiding the house next door for weed, but got the wrong address. It was a late night no knock raid. Mr. Maye was awakened by the sound of his front door being kicked in, and he ran to his 2 year old daughter's room with a gun, and levelled it at the door. The first intruder through the bedroom door was shot and killed. Cory soon realised it was cops and surrendered. As it happened the dead cop was the mayor's son. Long story short, he got massively railroaded and soon found himself on Death Row. They never did find weed in his house (what with being the wrong house and all). The right / libertarian blogosphere got wind of it and there was a surge of outrage. New lawyers took up his case. A judge commuted his death sentence, then after a while a judge ordered a new trial. Ultimately the prosecution bullied him into plea bargaining guilty to manslaughter. He could have stuck to his guns and sought acquittal, but then the da would seek a murder conviction and he could end up sentenced to death again. He was sentenced to time served on the manslaughter rap. So he's a free man, but still a convicted felon. He can't vote, can't own a gun ever again, and about 90% of prospective employers will look at his record, see "felony", freak out and refuse to hire him.
Cops may be able to shoot dogs whenever and for whatever reason they wish, but if you shoot one of their dogs, you're killing an officer of the law. Hmmm.
Weed is dangerous and if we don't come guns blazing into your home to eradicate it someone could end up hurt.
If you follow Radley Balko's blog, you'd know that this happens to poor dogs at least a few times a week.
MF bring up a good point about our justice system...too often people are railroaded into taking a plea bargain for stuff they didn't do because fighting for their innocence would take months . I had a friend of mine who was arrested for shoplifting--not even HER shoplifting, but that of her friend's husband while they were on opposite sides of the store. :Wtf: Anyway, she was arrested for that in Dec '10 and finally got charges dropped eleven months later. I mean, isn't there a way of speeding up the process? A right to a fair and fast trial Is a constitutional right, after all, and no one talks about that 'cause OMG criminals are bad.
It's not even just that it would take a while, it's that they over charge people and if you take something to trial and lose the consequences are much more severe than they should be for what the crime actually was.
You're right for the most part regarding the cops. However, without the criminal activity there wouldn't have been the need for the cops to be there at all.
Cops are armed homicidal maniacs with the power of the government behind them. They are trained to be conceited and to look down on everyone else. And if there's one thing they love doing, is pulling out their [-]dicks[/-] guns and shooting something -- anything! Stray dogs, hurt deer, bear cubs, it's sickening. If cop shoots my dog, or any member of my family, he's a dead man! Period! If that means I have to keep shooting until his buddies kill me in return, then that's how it will be because I will never surrender to these power hungry, bloodthirsty assholes. You break into my house, you threaten or harm my family, you're dead.
I really hate to say it, but this is one big damn reason not to have anything illegal in your home if you've got kids. It's not right, and it's no guarantee that some JBTs won't kick in your door in the wee hours, but it's also not a risk you can justify. Doesn't matter how you think things should be when you're responsible for the care of another. You make the practical decision.
I agree completely. Sometimes it doesn't matter the way things "should" be. You have to deal with reality the way things are. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to fix a broken system.
Once again no knock warrants should be outlawed. And you should have to show justification for shooting a dog. Dog bites your boot? Unless you've got crap boots you're not in any danger. Small dogs? Don't make me laugh. If it's not a dog that is acting wild or attacks for real there is zero reason to shoot it.
I feel your pain. Here in Georgia (and probably everywhere) it takes several months for dropped charges to clear in the database. Thus the DA himself can tell the world that the charges are dropped, but if you try to get a job every major employer's HR department computer will drop you like a hot potato. This info comes straight from the DA mouth. IMO every time the huge backlog of cases gets too full, they begin screening. The oldest non-violent cases get tossed first.
That's like responding to a cop shooting a kid for speeding and then being like "Welp, shouldn't have been speeding." Logical, it is not. There is no excuse.
If we all lived by that, things would be pretty boring. Maybe these police officers should just follow proper procedure.
Parenthood is sacrifice. People who disagree with this should not have kids. You are no longer as free to risk run-ins with the law whether you think the law is right or not. Or maybe if they'd gotten the right house, or maybe if it wasn't illegal, or maybe... Too fucking bad. Reality is not multiple choice, and you must deal with what is. That means doing whatever you can to eliminate unnecessary risks when you're responsible for someone else.
Totally agree if you want to smoke weed (or do anything blatantly illegal in your home) be prepared for the eventuality that your kids may see the business end of an arrest. You as a parent can explain to the kids why you are in trouble (if they are old enough to understand it) just like anytime you are charged with assault, tax evasion, DUI, or whatever different things many of us do from time-to-time.