How Often Does Tamar Get to Abuse Private Info

There is no set policy. In fact the rule itself says it is up to the owner to decide what is and what isn't a personal information violation and what the punishment if any there should be. Just b/c in the past (under a different owner I would remind you) you got banned for something doesn't mean everyone else has to be as well.

As to the second point, I think the revealing personal information rule is stupid to begin with (ABUSE of it to fuck with people off the board would be a better one), so I don't see how just HINTING at possessing personal information by a Mod somehow affects the boards reputation.

I think it calls for a clarification of the rule. I'm with you on the idea that the board is too strict regarding personal information. Be that as it may, you and I don't make the rules. I'm suggesting here is a test case. It's evident to most that it wasn't harmful, yet it is also evident that it played loose with personal information. When she did the same thing with Skinofevil, there were again no repercussions. Yet Mewa and Chup were each banned for a week for publishing pictures of each other when both have been free with self-publishing their images here. This is an inconsistent application of the rule. Like you, I think it calls for tossing out the rule, especially because not doing so means their is an exemption for certain people. As I said in the earlier post, that's very bad for the board's reputation.

"Played loose with personal information"?? What personal information?

He posted it freely himself in an open forum! There was nothing revealed!!

I don't use the admincp for anything but board business. There is no fun in that at all. I have no interest in revealing true personal information. If I can't find it on Google based on posts alone, I'm not going to find it.

Skinofevil and I were screwing around, he specifically told everyone it was fine with him. He specifically asked that there were no repercussions. Mewa and Chup both complained about each other. If they had agreed to drop it and call it even...which I tried to encourage them to do...there would have been no repercussions there, either.

So?

Implying something (without any particular details which would prove it had actually been done no less) is not revealing anything.

Bad taste? some may think so - but trolling in bad taste is pretty much the life-blood of the internet.

Now that's a stretch.

I once posted a picture of my daughter here on Wordforge. Does that mean that anyone who saw it knows her real life identity?

Ridiculous argument.

If anyone wants to know how I may or may not know anything about Skrain, I'll be happy to explain it over PM.

And it has nothing at all to do with being an Admin. It never has, which is why Visionrazor had such a bad month before I was ever on a staff, anywhere, ever.

There are two sets of rules at Wordforge: The rules the Cool Kids get to use and those for the Untouchables.

Close. The two sets of rules are actually (1) the set posted in the FAQ and (2) the double-secret probation set that only Volpone knows about.

Look, Wordforge's rule set is minimal. The only reason some of you want more more more and very specific rules is so that you can rules-lawyer them for your own amusement. A fairly common tactic in any community setting.

What is a rule, anyway? Simply a limit on what you can do, either imposed from above or agreed-upon by the community. Any rule is going to seem arbitrary to someone because rules by their very nature are inherently arbitrary. "This far, no further" with the "this far" part an arbitrary limitation.

I'm sorry some of you don't think the board is run the way you would run it. It's actually run the way I would run it, and since I own it . . .

Nope. But it certainly doesn't stop anyone from being creepy and jacking off to her photo.

Or being a troll and claiming they did.

the reality is that creepy is pretty much subjective. What is creepy to some is laughable to another and boring to a third.

Also, frankly, if your photo is on the internet and you are female - SOMEONE some where is jacking off to it. I don't have any ego at all about my attractiveness and i'm certain some poor slob somewhere has pleasured himself to my image.

Nature of the beast.

(and yes, that includes kids and teens)

Agreed.

The thing that Tamar does, although it's a practice by no mean limited to her, is to obtain and pass around personal information via PM. The problem that seperates her from the others is her indefinite grip on their modship role (which, lets face it, will not be ending anytime soon unless she pops her clogs). Tamar's defence is always "I'm not breaking the rules". Well, fair enough, she isn't. But the question then becomes, how ethical is it for a mod to carry out questionable behaviour and pass around personal info by PM simply because it's outside the rules? Tamar has even alluded to having engaged in this activity, and I, for one, have been on the receiving end of a PM from her containing someone else's personal info without the permission of said person.

Just because the rules don't cover it should it be acceptable behaviour for a senior mod since it is still unethical whatever way you look at it? A moderator has access to certain informations that the rest of us do not. There is a duty to keep that information confidential, not use it to gather information and misuse it via PM.

But let's be completely honest here, this thread and discussion is a total waste of time. As long as Tamar has her nose firmly ridged up the backsides of the others mods and board owner, any unethical behaviour will just get swept under the carpet.

This is bullshit. A lot of personal info has been manipulated via PM and other means, and often released cryptically here. It has been done by all manner of people against many others - this includes use of personal info to goad people into revealing it themselves, and otherwise passge of invormation that has only been released by PM and has been passed on. I don't see how it can possibly be said that it is unreasonable to have a discussion about it.

It is a testament to what WF has become that the board owner is so cynical all he thinks is that issues are raised for the sake of complaing and "lawyering" (as you put it). Sometimes the stated reason for raising issue is exactky what it appears to be.

Present.

And, sir, if I may say so, sir, I truly think that it is well run, sir, because you, sir, are a great leader, SIR!

(Now may I please have those 2 million rep points you promised to [-]butt-kissers[/-] loyal posters?)

Any father with a cute daughter who doesn't think there are guys who have jacked off thinking about her or her photo isn't in the real world. What does that hurt, anyway?

The pristine quality of a freshly opened Kleenex box.

Well lets face it, now that I think about it, everything behind the scenes at Wordforge is a lie.

Unless, of course, you believe it was started by an Austrian dude named "Pablo" who immediately gave it to his "sister" and only appeared once, briefly when his "sister" was "on vacation".

Or that Borgs just gave up the board to Elwood (and wasn't blackmailed with the help of Nick, backing up the board and planning to mirror it to cause a mutiny).

Or that Elwood is really a cop.

Or any of the other things we've been told over the years. I mean sure, maybe one or two are true. But you need a professional grade BS detector to winnow out the lies TPTB have foisted upon us since the board's inception. You're almost better off assuming that anything a staffer tells you is a lie than to believe it.

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Pablo was a real guy. Wordforge existed for months before we came here and overwhelmed the board with our antics. He was here for weeks in the beginning, not "once". His online presence isn't that hard to find and includes photographs. The dude is real.

Borgs never knew about the mirror site until after the fact. There was no blackmail...unless you consider his knowledge that the board almost unanimously said in a poll that they would rather have Elwood than him as a leader and he couldn't face confrontation.

Elwood is a cop. You were blinded by a chick that was stringing along about 5 guys over PM and lying to all of them. Hell, she was pretty...I'm sure she was very good at making them believe whatever she wanted.

But do keep those drama drums beating, it just wouldn't be WF without it.

You know, the meme that Tamar has been digging up and storing information on WF posters is as old as WF. And equally as old as WF is Tamar's denial of it.

Creepy references to people's kids really don't do anything to make anyone believe she's not digging up and storing information on people.

But hey, as long as it's not "breaking a rule," right?

You haven't swallowed any red pills recently, have you?