What Happens After Abramstrek? After 2016?

Into Darkness, big success hoorah for those who love it. Certainly well enough to make a movie in 2016.

Let's say the third Abramstrek movie is another big success. That even I like it because of its war with the Klingons, big space battles, and really cool 23rd century ground combat.

I happily say "Third times the charm"!

What happens then?

I'm guessing that after being in three 200 million dollar movies in succession (plus others) that Pine, Quinto, and the rest will want major raises to appear in any further movies (by the way, Shatner, Nimoy and others wanting more money was one thing that prompted the creation of The Next Generation).

And of course none of the Abramsverse cast is likely to be interested in the lower pay and immensely heavy workload of a television series.

So what happens then?

1) Recast the Abramsverse movies?

2) TV series based on the Abramsverse but either recast or not about Kirk, Spock, et cetera?

3) Another reboot for the next set of movies?

Any other ideas?

Maybe the Abramsvere's 24th Century is explored?

Or nuSulu's captaincy of the Abramsverse's Excelsior?

What about the 1701-A, B, C, D, E, Entc Ent al in the Abramsverse? How might all that play out?

By the way, I'm not sure I would not like to see Star Trek get a "cold reboot".

I for one would like to go back into the original series and redefine some of the things like the technology so as to eliminate huge problems with plot and continuity that some to the "Trek Tech" introduces.

Like the transporter. With the current Star Trek explanation of its working as a matter transmitter it should be quite capable of doing virtually anything. From healing wounds to raising the dead.

But if you redefined the transporter as something along the lines of StarGate's transport rings then the transporter has no capabilities beyond simply moving people from point A to point B over relatively short distances.

Ancient Iconians.

They were 'stargate' before "STARGATE".

The best storytelling would be to carry the torch with a TV series, one with very high quality and production values (like an HBO or AMC series)

The most profit, and thus most likely outcome, is that the follow the likely model for Batman. Let the Abrams trilogy stand as a "closed loop" like the Nolan Batman and wait a few years and start over....though I'm sure they won't reboot back to the origin story again.

jolene blalock, gates mcfadden and tasha yar should be out of a job long enough by then to be up to a reality show type 'gals in space'. paris hilton could drop by during sweeps and they could do pillow fights in fake zero-g!

They might stop making it. And it would not necessarily be a bad thing.

Well, there are no less than 5 producers, no doubt more, salivating to do their own take on TV Trek, so, no way we aren't getting another series eventually.

I could see Pine getting recast, but given Urban is doing the next Riddick movie and Quinto isn't exactly Hollywood A List, I think those two know not to piss in their own breakfast cereal.

When you hit 6, maybe there'll be a 'Generations' or even 'Phase 2 Redux' with a re-jigged crew.

I remember this one show I used to watch a lot of. It started out as a movie as well, but when they recast it for TV only one of the film actors reprised his role. Turned out to be fairly successful, even as some of those original characters were replaced over the years.

Hmmmm... NuTAS?

Point of order: for that sort of concept you need Marina Sertis' tits, not Denise Crosby tits.

Just sayin'


Edit: gotta throw in Hoshi for diversity too

Plastic corridors and Styrofoam rocks return as a pajama wearing crew fights re-used bird of prey special effects on a shoe string budget.

more seriously, the idea of the price of actors in a TV series is valid, particulary re Pine and Saldana...but Cho has been doing TV (Flash Forward) and Urban has a series coming up so they are not necessarily too big and expensive for TV.

Might be that the production costs would be a bigger issue

Given that the latest outing is looking to just draw even more new fans on top of reinvigorating most of the pre existing fanbase, nuST:TV would likely still be a money maker even with the premium cast. Give it a BSG sized budget and continue the idea of the same things happen, but differently as that show managed so often, and we'd wind up with the best AND most popular Trek yet.

Bad Robot produced tv show centred on Robert April. Pilot to feature Pine, Quinto and Urban; the latter two to appear sporadically throughout.

The problem is that the rights as to who owns what in Trek are a royal clusterfuck. Nobody is really certain of who owns what, once you get beyond certain elements. So, anybody trying to do something with Trek has to gamble that they've gotten all the right people to do a buy in on the project.

And while the official story is that there's only going to be three Abrams movies, if the third one makes enough bank, you can bet there'll be a fourth. Putting the adventures of muKirk and nuSpock on TV while there's a profitable movie franchise on the big screen is a non-starter. What they're most likely to do if they decide to put Trek back on TV, I think, is to stick a storyline in one of the upcoming movies that has a prominent role for a crew of a different ship and crew, this would then be used as the basis for the TV series. As an added bonus of doing it this way, you can have the movie actors show up on the series in the months leading up to the release of a new movie (thus increasing the promotion level of the movie).

April is a girl's name.

Go on.

Play out a scene in your head.

"April! April! April!"

It won't work.

What if in in the Abramsverse, he has a daughter named April?
Then, the show jumps ahead to her captain of her own ship.
Eh?

Who says there will even be a 1701-A in NuTrek?

Captain April April? Would Major Major Major be assigned to her crew?

The Addams Family had a servant named Thing Thing Thing, so why not?

Getting talked down to. Mr. April. So lame

What happens next? Probably a third film in 2016 or 2017, directed by one of Abrams' usual collaborators.

As I said in one of the other Into Darkness threads, I'd love a 13 episode per season cable series with this cast. But with Chris Pine doing the Jack Ryan reboot, that doesn't seem likely for at least a couple of years.

Nah, nuTOS is highly unlikely. It's not that these actors are too expensive as of yet. They are too much in demand. Karl Urban, whom I'd really like to see (and cuddle ) on a weekly basis has four movies coming out in 2013 alone, as does Zoe Saldana. Those two alone are two of the hottest new stars in Hollywood. They won't commit to a TV series as of this time.

Of course the money question will come into play once they can demand ungodly sums. Chris Pine got 2 million for STiD; that's doable. What's not doable for them is, and that's guesswork, typecasting.

Why not show us more about the world Trek exists in. I have an idea about a far out space station with a wormhole close by...

Karl Urban's Bad Robot pilot, Almost Human, got picked up for next season by Fox.
Spot on as always.

Karl Urban has had steady work for a decade now, but he's still not a household name. More like that guy you saw in that thing.

Whoever said that the best route would be to introduce a new viable character and spin the next series off of that person is spot on. Most of this current cast will be priced out the market of television (especially Chris and Zoe), and if Trek could take off once before with an entirely new cast--four times over--it can happen again.

And definitely no more 26 episode seasons. As Enterprise's last season showed, less is more where Trek's concerned.

This may sound crazy, but I wouldn't mind seeing Ron Moore tackle a television series set in JJ Abrams Trekverse.

He knows his Trek lore and he knows how to make good Trek. He's also good at playing in rebooted universes (nuBSG).

I think he'd have fun playing around in the JJ Trekverse.... free of all the Roddenberry edicts and, now, free of all the continuity issues...

He understands the core of Trek (morality plays, exploration of the human condition, etc), he knows how to write interesting characters (BSG, DS9), and he knows how to film good action scenes...

One more go-around for the JJ-verse in 2016, then a quasi-reboot for a few films. Things will only roughly adhere to the JJ-verse chronology, there will be different actors, the Enterprise will look different, but there will be no formal reset story. (Kinda like the transition from one Bond to another.)

Next complete reboot and "origin" story? 2030 or so. Since many original hardcore TOS fans will have died off by then, there will be no new timeline; they'll just start with a new chronology.

No new TV shows forthcoming, but maybe a high-budget cable series after 2016 when the JJ-verse is wrapped.