Seriously. They do amazing work there. In other news, has anyone else tried the new pumpkin spice and cream cheese muffin from Starbucks? I just came back from a coffee date there. It was... meh. Pumpkin spice is nice and all, but in this case they were clearly coasting. :jayzus
Starbuck's is awful... If you're ever in town, go to the Moonbean. Oh, and I have it on excellent authority to never take the hookers with the big boobs there unless you're Poodle
One thing I really hate about the Canadian coffee market is that every coffee shop everywhere uses Torani brand syrup. The espresso might change from place to place, but if you're getting a mocha or a butter pecan latte or whatever, it's always going to have the same flavour.
Dinner? I like the picnic thing, especially in a semi-public area - then make sure you have the second event already in mind. Picnics are cheap as hell but yet so super romantic; a moderate bottle of wine, some cheese and a damn sausage log (if only for future innuendo). If girly is unpleasing you feign allergies or some-such and bail, if she's into you and vicey-versa you spring event #2 on her and you're golden. The best part is it counts as at least two dates at that point, so if you're with a girl that won't panty-drop till date 3 you're in the game next outing. Coffee and dinner dates are lame!
Since I live in Edmonton, what I really prefer is "coffee" at West Edmonton Mall. You start with coffee, then if it goes well you can do dinner, a movie, an amusement park, a sea lion show, mini golf, bowling, go dancing at a nightclub, visit a casino, explore the delights and horrors of an Asian supermarket... http://www.wem.ca/
I had a first date with a Malaysian in a mall once. Yes, I made the obvious "mall Asian" pun. Some people wonder why they're single. I generally don't.
Dating. Sheesh! You must learn the art of 'hooking up'. Just cut to the chase....if ya know what I mean.
I normally did/do (but not recently) went to a coffee and dessert place as it's quiet, you can talk, it's kind of artsy as the owner has lots of art on display from local artists (which makes a nice topic for discussion), the desserts are kind of fancy and you play little games like saying "I couldn't possibly finish one by myself but would she like to split one with you?" (which is kind of intimate), and if all really goes well then the shop is right near Balboa Park which is San Diego's version of Central Park with lots of street artists, museums, and cool buildings to look at. All of these are public places and that usually makes the ladies feel more at ease plus if the date isn't going well then you can just call it a night without hurting anyone's feelings.
http://www.extraordinarydesserts.com/ That's where I do my coffee dates. Their desserts are pretty fancy. Check out the pictures on yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/extr...9gkLUVqNjcOj6BloA7nFlQ#9gkLUVqNjcOj6BloA7nFlQ
Man, if you came to NYC I could hook you up in a minute. With all the clubs I go to and the people I know....fughedaboudit! I swear to you....all you would have to do is stand next to me and you would meet women all night.
I did a coffee date once. One of my best decisions ever. of Girl was psycho. And not the good kind of 'pretend I'm your daughter and fuck me in the ass while choking me and talking dirty' kind of psycho ether (shit got real awkward when I found out her father was in jail.... for a sex crime). I'm talking an elementary teacher that HATED kids and the only time she got excited during the date was when she started telling me about all the different mind fucks she would do on her students. I got out of there quick.
The muffin described in the OP sounds like about 800 calories. No thanks. Yes, dinner dates are a waste. They accomplish nothing. If a woman needs a "downpayment" of a fancy dinner in order for her to consider you, she's not worth it. I like first dates that involve activity. It breaks the ice. -Salsa dancing -Ice skating -Hiking -Mini golf -Club dancing -Corn maze (during the harvest season now) et al Plus, I need to know that the woman is capable and willing to get off her ass and move well, because that's the lifestyle I expect us to have together. But I agree with Anc and 14thDoctor. Quick dates like coffee/drinks/ice-cream are important to screen people you don't know. The world is full of creepers, female included.
Anyway, to get this thread back on track... Castle... I dare you to do better! (Actually, I really think I would pay the $3.50 to read his version)