Though in its current iteration the Republican party is really just running on idealism; they're not fact based even in the slightest and seem to be unable to fathom why they're distancing voters.
Though in its current iteration the Democrat party is really just running on idealism; they're not fact based even in the slightest and seem to be unable to fathom why they're distancing voters.
Okay, but where did anybody make that equivalence? You are reading something in to the term that isn't there. Usually when people do this, it's because they feel some sort of inadequacy, and are worried that everybody else notices it too. I doubt many would argue that less educated means less intelligent (it's why we have two different words). But I would argue that more education is a good thing, wouldn't you?
See what I mean? Your statement is demonstrably false Lets wait a few weeks and revisit this after the mid-terms.
Anger? No. Rolling eyes? Yes. Do I think the tea party played this week well? No. They should have let things play out, since this has all distracted from the utter failure that the obamacare rollout has been. Are the red areas of the country living under a system ruled by stodgy old whites? Yes. The assumption that the younger "creative class" is knee jerk liberal is just that. An example, a friend of mine is in his thirties, and runs a successful small grocery store which features only local and organic food, specializing in supplying the food for like minded restaurants in the area. He the nicest little hipster hobbit you'll ever meet. His place is staffed by old hippies and blue haired transgender dudes. He has come out of the closet this week on Facebook, asking questions about the shutdown, questioning why we need the government to manage national parks, and why the government should be in charge of education. This went over well with a lot of people on his feed. As a follow up he's taken to detailing the asinine regulations that the health department puts on him. When the city came to our wine booth demanding we pay a permit fee, he was visibly pissed. Heck, most hipster creative people I know work for the energy companies, these aren't liberal people. In time they'll get older and the political landscape will change. When has this ever not been the case?
Anc keeps making the implication about less educated. As for more educated being a good thing...learning is always good...but... I don't define it as more "book learning". That's kinda what gets us in the everyone should go to college mentality that is actually causing problems. These "educated" people think many jobs are beneath them. They think they should start higher on the ladder than they should. They often think they have a better grasp on things than they really do. They are starting out deep in a pit of debt. Also many of these "educated" people do very little of their own research, they generally read articles and "research" with large amounts of confirmation bias.
Then please demonstrate that the democrats aren't losing supporters. Every opinion poll I've seen lately says that the democrats are losing supporters too, yes the republicans are taking a bigger hit, but that doesn't mean the democrats are doing well.
@evenflow, I agree that there is/was a significant 'technotarian' contingent of the Tea Party (if yard signs could vote Ron Paul would have won the Eastside [Microsoft Suburbs] hands down) but these types while supporting some of the so called ideals of the early Tea Party are not the base of the Tea Party as a whole. When the Eastern Washington (fundy) 'Tea Party' candidate actually started talking about his social stances support here dropped like a rock. It was quickly made apparent that the Tea Party was nothing more than the most reactionary Republicans. Tea Party is now a 4 letter word even among the technotarians, at least the ones out here.
Can we just stipulate then that less educated isn't an insult? I have yet to see more than one person critical of the article point out why the data might be incomplete. I'm still waiting on the rest of you. And Flow's story, while interesting, is anecdotal. What is an actual data based approach to critiquing the article? We have so far the possibility that the demographics don't match up with who votes. That's an intriguing idea. Anything else?
That's not Charlotte. That's closer to Asheville...which makes even less sense actually. Charlotte's in that light pink area.
It's an insult because many on the left try to pretty up but in the end what they are saying is "they are too stupid to understand, if they were smarter they would agree with me". But their definition of smarter is pretty narrow, usually it means a degree. But as I said earlier most degrees aren't going to make you any more politically savvy than someone who has never set foot in a college. And Gul, you're not going to be dishonest and say that hasn't been the liberal attitude for years, "everyone who disagrees with me is ignorant"?
So just pointing out the demographic FACT that Tea Party areas are less educated than non Tea Party is enough to make you butthurt? Okay, well, sorry.
I'd point out that ignorant also doesn't mean stupid, but it seems you are fixated on the idea that the world insults you.
Not really. I'm disagreeing. And in case you're wondering, disagreeing has a different meaning from ignoring.
Yanno, once upon a time me and my rusty little B.A. had the dubious honor of working with a group of PhDs. To a wo/man, they were as dumb as a bag of hammers. That said, can we find a PC term for "some people have less formal education than others" so no one's feelings are hurt? Also, note to all posters: Pointing out that white people are white is now apparently considered racist.
The "some reason" is probably at least in part a reflection of what it takes to make living in an area work. More population density means it takes more rules for people to live peacefully together; more competition for land means more need for zoning. People in urban areas see more need for government because, in their immediate surroundings, there IS more need.
Oh, come on, now, Dickynoo. Don't pussyfoot around your urge to bash. If you're going to call people xenophobes for resisting a bloated and corrupt regime, just come right out and do it. You're better than this garamet-style "it's almost as if" crap.
Okay. I'm not sure how to access that and overlay that with weather those showing up to vote are dirt poor or not. And our region may be less educated but the beginning of this thread did have comments that made it seem you two thought less educated meant stupid as fuck. Both of you have changed your tone, but that's how it started off. But as has been said our region has smarts just not the go to college kind. I've taught some super smart kids in our hometown, their problem is they've been taught college is the only way. When in fact they can make more money if they will look into the trades. So the kids look at college as this unattainable thing for one reason or another and get seriously discouraged. What we really need is for the dipshits in charge of education to realize not all kids are made out of college stock and should be encouraged into going into other areas. Instead of being beat down thinking anything less than a degree means they aren't "worthy" by today's standards.
Study finds Tea Party supporters more scientifically literate than average. In case you're interested in evidence that contradicts the stereotype.
The OP and what they are maintaining and implying is pretty much straight up elitism and racism. Indicating that there is something wrong or "lesser" about the supposed inferior educations of those in districts that elect so called "Tea Party" representatives. In fact, there is little evidence that advanced degree programs from "big name" universities are qualitatively better than degrees from less well known colleges & universities. Finally, why does it make a difference one way or the other that such districts are "whiter"? Doesn't that then imply the reverse being true, that higher minority districts tend to support large federal govt. programs because they stand to benefit from them most?
