Segregation is back. By choice.

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  1. Captain X

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    I answered that in my first post about it, idiot. :garamet:
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  2. 14thDoctor

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    So you're going with "cuz racism?" What a brilliant analysis. :borg:
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  3. Shirogayne

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    And also, serve gone nearly two full pages without mentioning that this was only a proposed measure. Is the school going to entertain this? Doubtful, not the least of that being the money it would cost to set that up for a population of students that will make up ten to fifteen percent of the student body, tops? That's just impractical.
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    Are federal judges going to force busing of students now? AGAIN!
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    They are entertaining it. Bringing it up and talking about it is entertaining something.

    You should have said, "Is the school going to go through with it?"

    And money is no object to some of these colleges that are hell-bent on being "right" on all the issues on campus.
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  6. Shirogayne

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    A private school, maybe. But UCLA is still public. No, I don't believe for a second any of this will get off the ground.
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  7. Dinner

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    I am sure driving while black happens sometimes but the numbers aren't all that clear mainly because cops tend to concentrate in high crime areas which tend to be poor areas and blacks tend to be poorer than whites. So much of the reported differences in pull over rates has to do with amount of time spent in high crime areas.
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    Ever been on a college campus?? Most dorms are already all white unless its a HBC. So they don't need a label. Some blacks don't want to be one of the few that are in that dorm. Just picture yourself as a student at Howard university in a dorm with mostly Alpha phi Alpha frat brothers. If given the choice and there are enough white folks to fill a dorm with mostly white guys....you just might want to be in that dorm.

    just a thought.
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  9. Lt. Mewa

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    If every day or a few times a week when you went shopping, people called you a dumb fuck or idiot, could you just toughen up and deal with it?

    Wouldn't you start feeling a little down?

    Think about it?
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  10. Ramen

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    I can totally see that as a typical day for Mewa.
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  11. Lt. Mewa

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    I didn't stay on campus but the college I went to was mostly white. Many people would switch room mates. The dorms were known as The Towers. They had like 10-12 floors. Some floors were all Asian, all Spanish, and all Black. Thats how they wanted to live. You got an asshole room mate...you try to switch out. You the lone black guy on a floor with mostly white guys that can't always resist racist comments. Not comments to the lone black guy but just general talk about all non-whites and Jews...I think you might want to get out of there.
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  12. Lt. Mewa

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    I would say its more typical for gays and transgenders.
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  13. Ramen

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    Once again... Can totally see that. :walz:
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    We're not talking about anyone calling someone else a "dumb fuck" or an "idiot." Those are genuine insults.

    We're talking about "microaggressions."
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    Then for a private blacks only house but do not ask for public money for segregated housing.
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    I demand a culturally diverse, all lesbian dorm! :mob: :calli: :D
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  17. Lt. Mewa

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    But Paladin...you said don't let words traumatize you. You mean like saying things such as "these people" or "you people are always...."? :dayton:
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  18. Lt. Mewa

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    What public money? Students pay to be in the dorms. And public money..if any...would be for widespread use.
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    They pay out the ass, actually. :yes:
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    Where do you think the money comes from to build those state owned universities? Also, no, college students do not pay the total cost only a extremely highly subsidized fraction and the feds cover even much of that.

    So, yes, public money all over the place and none of it should go to racially segregated housing because that is just a racist policy the government should not engage in.
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    Where you getting this from? You must be talking about new colleges. Cuz most colleges and dorms were built years ago and then are ultimately owned by the college who the charge the students for housing. But are we talking about only state universities? Cuz that would be a separate issue where your point might stand.
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    'You people' don't seem to understand that some form of self imposed segregation exist on all campuses. But its not all negative. One dorm might have most of the football team. Many campuses have all female dorms. And on and on for many other groups.
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  23. Dinner

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    If they were a state owned school, which is most schools attended by most studebts by enrollment numbers, then, yes, they were publicly funded.

    Hell, even if it is private school they shpuld automatically lose student aid funding because it is, by definition, a racially discriminatory practice.
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    My preference in most situations is to have a good mix of different folks. I think that having different ages, races, genders, etc. gives everyone a chance to see things from other perspectives and is generally helpful.

    However, I don't know what it's like to always be different than everyone else in a way that is visually obvious. Maybe it's exhausting. I know my closest black friend is always talking about stuff like these "microaggressions", though she's never used that term, or the whole driving while black thing. (She doesn't really like going to the newer stores in our city because she thinks it's a whites-only area and people look at her weird). But yeah....sometimes it does seem like she's looking to be offended, but really...how the fuck would I know? I mean, I'm middle-aged, middle-class, white, no tattoos, and I drive a fuckin' Buick. :shrug:
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    Self-imposed is different form the University saying, "this block of rooms is for X only"
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    Makes sense. The mafia doesn't want rats in its ranks. Why would these youths want potential snitches in their's?
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  27. Lt. Mewa

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    Student aid is for the students. Are you saying that fed should not give student aid to a student who qualifies but is attending a college you claim is racially discriminatory?
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    Actually if the report quoted in the OP is correct, they are going through with the plan, but the new dorms are not restricted to blacks, only advertised specifically to them or indeed anyone interested in their cause. I know very little about dorms on US campuses, but it seems to me that dorms with specific profiles and targeted advertising are not a new phenomenon. (Not that I'd call race as a basis for specific advertising a felicitous choice.)
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    Being one of three black kids tops in most of my classes...it was what it was. I honestly don't have any horror stories about getting picked on just for being black. If anything, I got more shit by other black kids for not being a stereotype, and even that was mostly a couple of months in 7th grade till one of them got expelled and the other one's family moved yet again. Mostly, i got targeted for being an odd duck who didn't follow fads.

    I think my mom was trying to be comforting by telling me that guys were afraid to talk to be because I was black. I wasn't like what people expected a black chick to be, but when you're a kid, you don't care about race politics. You just see people.
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    This seems very much like a complete non-story. We're talking about a themed housing unit for 24 students at a school with 1,000 times that many students. It is not actually segregated, just designed with the intention to appeal to a particular racial segment. There are few details available about the set-up, but the students involved sign the same license agreement (think lease) and are subject to the same student housing rules as other students in student housing. To whatever extent this is an issue, it is dwarfed by issues like fraternities--including the omnipresence of racially homogeneous fraternities--and bigotry and general assholism in the dorms. Wailing and gnashing of teeth over this one relatively benign case of racially themed college housing is an exercise in grievance addiction engaged in by people who aren't the least bit serious about addressing whatever real related problems might actually exist.
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