Hillary - Child Avenger?

So, Hillary's big thing is to say that she's spent her whole life "fighting for children & families."

Claiming that as your platform is like a beauty pageant contestant saying she supports world peace. Calculated & cynical (who could possibly be against children?). Vintage Hillary.

Anyway, I never hear any specifics of how Hillary has "fought" for children. What has she actually done, except defend a child rapist and be caught on tape laughing about getting the rapist off?

I'm sure there are several Wordforgers who can fill in these blanks. Please, share your valuable knowledge.

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She helped Chelsea get a lucrative job with the Clinton Foundation, so there's that.

With all the informed Hillary supporters on this forum, I'm expecting you'll get lengthy and substantial answers.

You people are just cynical.

On 9/11/2016 Hillary tried to give pneumonia to a random child who appeared on the sidewalk in front of Chelsea's apartment.

Yes, Anna: QoT has already chimed in.

Pics or it didn't happen

All I know of is the child rapist she successfully defended despite acknowledging his probable guilt. That and the black bastard (Danney) she deprived from having a relationship with his father.

All I know of are these 2 negs, but her supporters should be able to list a ton of children she's helped (hopefully at least 2)...

Oh you mean the pneumonia she caught that was going around her campaign staff? That wasn't contagious.

Claim: Hillary Clinton successfully defended an accused child rapist and later laughed about the case.


MOSTLY FALSE

WHAT'S TRUE: In 1975, young lawyer Hillary Rodham was appointed to represent a defendant charged with raping a 12-year-old girl. Clinton reluctantly took on the case, which ended with a plea bargain for the defendant, and later chuckled about some aspects of the case when discussing it years later.

WHAT'S FALSE: Hillary Clinton did not volunteer to be the defendant's lawyer, she did not laugh about the case's outcome, she did not assert that the complainant "made up the rape story," she did not claim she knew the defendant to be guilty, and she did not "free" the defendant.

Well, since Left Forge is stumped I figured I would turn to the Internet to answer this seemingly easy question.

And this happened.

In case nobody has given you an update, just about all the fact-checkers have been lying their ass off. Just Google for details on a "check" and you can trivially refute it at least 80% of the time.

In the example you gave, the idiots said it was "true" that Hillary laughed about the case, and then said it was "false" that Hillary laughed about the case. It also lied about all the grilling and psychological bullshit Hillary threw at the victim, and the detailed records (actual images of the case files) have long ago been splashed across the Internet.

Oh, you dear sweet person. That you posted this in a Flashlight thread, in response to posters like gturner and m. bison, shows that you have an undying spirit and a willingness to walk right into a room filled with wall to wall shit and try to clean it up as best as you can, in the hopes that it will inspire others to abstain from diving in as well. You brave soul.

I didn't actually need to read any of their posts to know that this was a proper response, of sorts, to the thread. Flashlight is especially predictable, and you can respond to his threads remarkably on-point just by reading the thread title and any responses from sane people without actually clicking "Show Ignored Content" to read his posts.

Although I do have to admit that Ramen has displaced Flashlight as "the poster least useful to ever take off of ignore."

True. With Flashy, it's expected. With Ramen, it's just really sad.

Maybe you should stop blaming your ignorance on everyone around you and learn to read:

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Families_ _Children.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Families_ _Children.htm#Child_Law
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Families_ _Children.htm#It_Takes_a_Village

I'd have thought you'd at least have heard of the last one. It's always hysterical watching you clowns completely misconstrue its meaning. Go for it. I could use a laugh.

But make sure to address your reply to someone other than me. That's even funnier.

You didn't read the Snopes article either. Breathlessly trying to defend her, they noted that she sent the young girl to have a psych evaluation and said:

“She was vigorously advocating for her client. What she did was appropriate,” said Andrew Schepard, director of Hofstra Law School’s Center for Children, Families and the Law. “He was lucky to have her as a lawyer ... In terms of what’s good for the little girl? It would have been hell on the victim. But that wasn’t Hillary’s problem.”​

As for the claim that Hillary Clinton "knew the defendant was guilty," she couldn't possibly have known that unless she were present when the incident in question occurred. It's also largely irrelevant given that under Hillary Clinton's handling of the case, the defendant pled guilty rather than going to trial and asserting his innocence.​

Oh, so no defense lawyer has ever known that their client was guilty because the defense lawyer wasn't there!

It's not a fact check, it's crap flung on a page.

LOL, mostly false except for the facts:

That reminds me of the DJT fact checker: "Did Hillary acid wash her private email server?" NO. (Just Bleach Bit + Hammers)

That shit is golden!

This was particularly funny:

Clinton co-sponsored banning high lead levels in children's toys​

What, she was in Congress back in 1968 or something? But it gets better!

LEGISLATIVE OUTCOME: Referred to Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation; never came to a vote.​

Next up:

Sponsored bill against renting violent video games to kids.​

Well, is that a particularly good thing? No, not really. More intrusive nanny government.

LEGISLATIVE OUTCOME:Referred to Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation; never came to a vote.​

Continuing on:

Call for a White House Conference on Children and Youth.​

Holy shit, stop the presses! She called for a conference!

And these are her "accomplishments".

She's never accomplished a damn thing.

She also supports abortion right up to the moment of birth (her words).

Not much regard for the children there........

That one's false, @Dayton3 .

http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...ted-cruz-claim-hillary-clinton-backs-unlimit/

For the record, it took 6 seconds to Google this, and another 30 seconds to cross check it for accuracy.

Yeah, I don't really have the patience to sift through the bullshit from the pro-Hillary propaganda site Margaret linked to. But it seems to offer the same kind of shallow spindoctoring that the Snopes site offers.

I have noticed that one of Hillary's favorite strategies is to "come out in suppport" of X, Y, or Z. She doesn't do anything other than that, but she trumpets that she "came out in support" of something. Or she makes a speech declaring that "something has to be done about X, Y, or Z, because it's bad." Or she spews meaningless rhetoric like "we must take action to ensure that all children grow up to become all that they can be!"

But these are her public positions. What are her private positions she saves for paid speeches to Wall St. fatcats?

Hillary - calculated, cynical.

Yeah. The thread quickly went from "What has Hillary done to help children?" to "It's not exactly true that she wants to crush their skulls in at the moment of birth!"

For a true pro-child, pro-mother policy, I'd have to go with Ivanka 100:1 over Hillary.

Beyond which: you know what they call abortion of a viable fetus a moment before birth? They call it giving birth. Induction of labor is the standard method of ending a pregnancy after about 24 weeks or so. Closer to birth you might see a scheduled C-Section. At that point those are the methods of terminating a pregnancy that are safest for the pregnant woman, and they're the ones doctors use.

Besides which, induced terminations of pregnancy at that stage happen essentially exclusively because of either fetal-nonviability or significant danger to a woman's life. Women who are eight months pregnant don't wake up one morning and have an abortion on a whim. It just doesn't happen. All late-term abortion bans really accomplish is to force women to carry literally dead weight for no reason and to make it harder for a woman with pre-eclampsia to get the care needed to avoid dying.

Late-term abortion bans are a solution in search of a problem that cause far more harm than they could possibly ever avoid.

Apparently Flashy doesn't realize that OntheIssues is a nonpartisan overview of all politicians. But we knew he wasn't actually interested in information.

Goddamn it.

No.

She didn't fucking support this.

At the risk of this becoming another abortion thread, or even worse becoming about you and your fucked up morality, no one has an abortion after the second trimester for reasons Liet mentioned.

Educate your damn self.

In thirty years and ten months of living in the Peoples' Republic of California, I've only ever heard of two entirely non-medical abortions after 13 weeks. One was a woman on Judge Judy, who'd was using the baby to get the guy back a day said "fuck this" when it was apparent that it wouldn't work. The other woman was one of the many broken women who had the honor of fucking Tucker Max at the height of his manwhoring days. That story with him and "Mimi" deserves to be read in its original text, but the short version is she was batshit.

Two women, none of them I knew personally. For every two such whores, there are countless loved, wanted babies who were not medically viable and for whom the decision to terminate will weigh heavily with the families forever.

As long as you support partial birth abortions for the ridiculous "health" exception, then you effectively support it anytime.

This thread is not about abortion. Start your own.

Hillary's a Goldwater girl. Her abortion views are intended to reduce the number of super-predators. (Dems are pretty clueless on the mission of Planned Parenthood.)

Google has lost credibility along with CNN, Faceberg: motherfucking Wikileaks... I miss being called a conspiracy therorist.