UC Berkley students go nuts. Riot over speech.

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  1. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    In a world where pizzagate is real, Sandy Hook was a hoax, and millions voted illegally, I don't feel like I'm breaking any new ground suggesting agents provocateurs may have played a role in inciting violence at a demonstration.
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  2. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    What did they do? Did she become a martyr?

    Not being snarky; I just didn't hear anything more about the Milwaukee thing (I'm assuming that's what you're talking about) other than that he was a dick to a trans student.
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    Conspiracy theories in general are lame but yours lacks any evidence at all and for that you deserve to be ridiculed. Look, I get it, you don't want to admit your side is fucked up and wrong in this case, most people emotionally invested in partisanship do not, but the truth is both sides have some real ugly flaws.

    The left's are on display now.
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    Uh dude 4chan is doing play by play on their boards right now on the disruption they are causing. One of them just got arrested in the Brooklyn protest punching someone out.
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    Link please?
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    The real problem here is the idiotic police policies to just let rioters do what ever they want. The official policy in Berkeley, in virtually all the bay area, is for the police to stand back and hope the mob cools down on its own.

    This is so no one can sue the city for police arresting or beating rioters. The problem with this policy is it completely fails to maintain public order or public safety and it let's rioters commit all manner of violent crimes at will. Arson, assault with a deadly weapon, regular assault, vandalism, willful destruction of property. All of those things occurred but the police made zero arrests because the weak and ineffectual Democratic leaders in those cities made sure police knew they would always be the first to be blamed for anything and everything.

    It has truly gone too far when people are attacked in the streets, arsonists light buildings on fire, and private property gets vandalized yet politicians won't let police do their jobs.
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    I am not linking that shit here. Those people are crazy and dangerous. Just go to 4chan and then the politically incorrect board. If you have any notion of joining in, USE A PROXY SERVER.
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    I don't know. I went there and scanned the first page of threads and didn't see anything but a few nude pictures from porn sites and lots of people arguing about racism/anti-racism.

    Nothing on this topic unless it is buried in one of the threads.
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    That site is quite active, you will have to dig a bit now. Try page 4 or 5 or 6. There are threads. I was just there and the Brooklyn one is on 4 now. I am not sure how that board works, if threads move to the top when there is activity or not, never posted there.
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    1. protesters should not be violent or destructive EVER; strategically it distracts from their message.
    2. no one who wishes to promote serious discourse should book Milo EVER. He's an IRL troll who contributes nothing of substance.
    3. the propensity of right wingers to shout "Free speech bitches!"and pretend no one on the right has ever moved to repress free speech is precious.

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  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    she got a lot of harassment, and dropped out to try and get away IIRC
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  12. Prufrock

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    Did the university do anything to help her?
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    Milo is to colleges like Dayton3 is to Wordforge.

    Milo trolls student leftists the same way Dayton3 trolls Wordforge leftists.

    You're letting him "win"
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    From the articles I saw, these weren't students.

    It doesn't excuse their behavior, but it does go against the picture that @Zombie and the Alt-Reich are trying to paint.
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    It was both. It was agitators and it was students.

    You can see it in the videos.

    And you still have leftists trying to shut down speech on college campuses around the country that they don't agree with. Not just Milo. Anything that offends the lefts feelings and the left tries to destroy the speaker.

    At Ben Shapiro's speech a few months ago students were trying to break through locked doors to get into the speech and disrupt it.
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    What makes you say they were students?
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    apologized to her, expressed regret Milo was ever brought in in the first place, stated the school would not tolerate bullying I think - this is all from memory so I can't be positive on specific details
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    Quote it, I want context. Also, anyone else?

    The Brownsville Affair has nothing to do with the thugs that the Nazi party used to terrorize anyone who opposed them in the build-up of their power. The thuggery seen at these "protests" is very similar to what the brownshirts did, which included disrupting the meetings of opposing parties (that doesn't sound familiar at all).

    Same could be said for every authoritarian regime. Actually communism has killed far more people than the Nazis did.

    Yes it was, just not by the university this time. This time it was violated by violent thugs.

    :rolleyes: Morons like you sure do make useful idiots. It's censorship whether the government does it or not. The Constitution does indeed limit the government, but a private citizen can still be taken to court for violating another private citizen's civil rights. This was actually one of the few things the FedGov could do when local juries utilized jury nullification during the '60s.

    He was evacuated by his security detail due to the threat to his person because of this violence. I'm sure if they'd gotten a hold of him, these thugs would have done their best to kill him, or at least hurt him as badly as they could, just like they did to another person who was dumb enough to wear a "Make America Great Again" hat there. Meanwhile, here you are defending this shit, illustrating my earlier point about people doing so. The really funny part is how you keep bouncing between "they were plants" to essentially defending what happened and claiming no one's rights were violated, because in your fantasy world, the Constitution isn't actually the law of the land.

    The vast majority of the violence at Trump's rallies were caused by anti-Trump "protestors" at least some of whom were paid to be there and do just that.

    Yes, you are, so why don't you?
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    He's also doing it because of what university's are supposed to represent. The real irony is that not that terribly long ago, free speech was also under attack, only then it was from the conservative side trying to limit it to "free speech zones." People and organizations like FIRE fought hard against that, and they're still at work thanks to the perpetually offended "safe space" crowd that doesn't even remotely believe in free speech and insists their universities go even further than the Bush-era conservatives.
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    Yeah, what a great two-for-one deal - disrupt the free speech of people we don't like, then get to claim it was totally a false-flag operation. Come to think of it that makes you sound like the Alex Jones crowd, doesn't it? :diacanu:
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    Sounds like a Trump rally to me!

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    We aren't talking about some champion of free speech here bud.

    We're talking about an entertainer that's smart enough to recognize the situation and is going to cash out big time from picking low hanging fruit. Which is fine by me - it's these idiots that overreact to and try to suppress his mean words who are the ones filling his pockets. No one to blame but themselves.
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    Here's an exchange

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  24. Eightball

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    It would if I didnt see the goods being posted there on 4chan.
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    The one no one but you can find and which you will not link?
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    Certainly you didn't think he was serious?
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    Probably not, but who knows? People be crazy this election season. :shrug:
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    Gturner went overboard, but I remember this exchange and paid it no mind because by that point he was just foaming at the mouth with Clinton hate.
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    Yeah, well, the question was asked and I answered it. :shrug:
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