Trump vs FDA regs

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  1. Rimjob Bob

    Rimjob Bob Classy Fellow

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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    There's money in them thar hills for poisonous snake oil pseudo-medicine.
    Look at the billions Enzyte made before they were shut down.
    As it is, it takes forever to stop them, because the courts are so tied up, they get rich and can afford bigtime lawyers before you can even get to them.
    With a weakened FDA?
    We'd be totally at the mercy of a gold rush of quacks.
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    If they cut the anti competitive rules which allow patents to keep getting rolled over again and again then that would be a good thing. If they streamline the approval process while maintaining safety that would also be good.

    I just doubt they will do either of those things effectively and instead will just do what the lobbyists want which means keeping prices high and protecting monopoly positions from competition.
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    If they focus on allowing generic drugs from Canada and allow people to try experimental drugs, I'm all for it.
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    The Repugs want the 1900's back.
    They pretend it's the 1950's, but that's their real utopia.
    Smokestacks spewing black, penny wages, short lifespans, child labor, and poisoned medicine.
    And fat cats feasting on the mayhem like Unicron munching a moon.
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    They definitely need to streamline the approval process.
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    Caveat emptor?

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  9. Amaris

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    Look, it's not their fault if you don't know how to test for dioxins.

    Ah, the good old days, when people of color were seen and not heard, where women knew their place, and where white men had the biggest say in how things were done. God (the white one) Bless America (the real one that only speaks English. American English, not that fancy British pussy shit)™.
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  10. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    Link from the initial post wants me to turn off my add blocker. No.

    And that cartoonist clearly knows fuck all about libertarians and is just pandering to your prejudices and assumptions.
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  11. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    God, remember when you didn't suck?
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  12. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    I remember way back when, I posted a cartoon from that same guy that basically compared libertarians to housepets. The cartoon was so dumb (and maybe people weren't quite so mindlessly partisan back then) that even non-libertarians recognized it as straight-up idiocy.
  13. Amaris

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    I know a lot of libertarians, and most them easily fit at least one of those descriptions. It may not be the whole picture, and it does assume all fall in their somewhere, but most of them do meet those examples at first blush.
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  14. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    Yup - "pandering to your prejudices".
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  15. Amaris

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    As opposed to yours.
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  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    ....you were fun, and human, and hadn't had the joy of life sucked out of you through the twin fangs of greed and self-righteousness.
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    Well, the second one was debatable.
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  18. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    You seem to be talking about yourself. You always did have a sense of self-loathing hanging about you.
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    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    What, then?

    That guy draws a pedo and labels him a "libertarian". As if someone who opposes force and fraud and non-aggression principle and constraints without consent would be a pedophile or someone okay with pedophilia.

    If that doesn't clue you in to how far off-base he is I don't know how else to reach through your cloud of prejudice.
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  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Aw, that was almost a little spark of life there!
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  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    ...and then the Borg programming took back over.
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  22. Zor Prime

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    Sure.

    Let's bring untested and experimental drugs to the market.

    Trump supporters can be the first ones to try them out. They can even get free samples!
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  23. Amaris

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    Because there exists every type. Do you think such thing only apply to libertarians, or that I would only apply them to libertarians? Just because I believe there is a strong undercurrent of truth in the cartoon doesn't mean it is the only undercurrent of truth I see. When you come up against someone's views, and something doesn't make sense, asking questions is generally the better approach rather than laying down judgment. People don't ask questions anymore, they create bullet points.
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  24. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Yeah, and let's bring in mad cow beef too. Deregulation leading to deaths is the ultimate libertarian ideal.
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  25. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    When you're dying of cancer get back to this subject, maybe you'll have a different opinion.
  26. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    No, I'd still be very much against mad cow.
  27. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You really shouldn't talk about your mom that way.
  28. Lt. Mewa

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    Will horse meat become available in America again? :storm:
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  29. Order2Chaos

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    Meh. One type of regulatory capture substituted for another. And don't you dare try to tell me that the FDA is so noble right now. The FDA is why we have $600 epipens and generics are impossible to bring to market. The FDA is why Shkreli can price gouge on daraprim and anything else out of patent.

    At least if they were actually going to burn the FDA to the ground, we'd save some money, and would have a chance at a UL-like drug regime (which would probably quickly fix the supplement market too). From the sound of this, it seems like they're just going to keep the worst parts of the existing system, and give their imprimatur to fraud.
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  30. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    It's funny, but it's a pile of straw men.

    Except for Gunner Joe.

    I'm Gunner Joe. :calli:
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